Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
if anybody would *not* want to have a "Documentation" link automatically generated that points to packages.python.org/, please speak up. That would only make sense if there's something uploaded to the PyPI docs dir. If PyPI can detect that, +1. Yes, the link would certainly be conditional. R

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Richard Jones
On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 9:18 AM, M.-A. Lemburg wrote: > "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> if anybody would *not* want to have a "Documentation" link automatically >> generated that points to packages.python.org/, please speak up. > > That would only make sense if there's something uploaded to > the PyPI

Re: [Distutils] [Catalog-sig] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread M.-A. Lemburg
"Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >>> As for a big link: if you think your page should have one, you are free >>> to make it yourself already. >> >> Sure but, >> >> 1/ I have never asked for the "Downloads ↓" link either, but the UI >> did add it, and it's really more ergonomic. >> >> 2/ I have never asked

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread cool-RR
2011/3/6 "Martin v. Löwis" > What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? >>> Please understand that it may sound harsh, but is necessary - better >>> be safe than sorry. >>> >> >> Nothing wrong about the warning itself, but about landing on a plain >> condensed text page. >> I

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
As for a big link: if you think your page should have one, you are free to make it yourself already. Sure but, 1/ I have never asked for the "Downloads ↓" link either, but the UI did add it, and it's really more ergonomic. 2/ I have never asked for "Latest Version: 0.6.14" on this page : hit t

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2011/3/6 Tarek Ziadé : ... > and you also say for 2/  "if you think your page should have links to s/ you also / you could have also / (not clear otherwise) ___ Distutils-SIG maillist - Distutils-SIG@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
2011/3/6 "Martin v. Löwis" : >>> What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? >>> Please understand that it may sound harsh, but is necessary - better >>> be safe than sorry. >> >> Nothing wrong about the warning itself, but about landing on a plain >> condensed text page. >> I th

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 22:05, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> I guess either http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distribute/docs or >> http://pypi.python.org/docs/distribute would be acceptable. > > The former won't work - it tries to get a version labeled "docs" > from "distribute". As for the latter, see >

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? Please understand that it may sound harsh, but is necessary - better be safe than sorry. Nothing wrong about the warning itself, but about landing on a plain condensed text page. I think we should make it a html page. And maybe displ

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
Since mercurial makes me annoyed I decided to use it. I'll have to learn it someday anyway, so why not now? https://bitbucket.org/regebro/pyroma Helpers welcome (although you'll probably have to wait to after PyCon). //Lennart On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 20:40, Lennart Regebro wrote: > The winner i

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Greg Ewing
Lennart Regebro wrote: But, before I move this to a public repository and upload it to PyPI, there is one important thing to be determined: What should it be called? Inspector Tiger? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDdCghQYvDY -- Greg ___ Distutils-

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread cool-RR
2011/3/6 Tarek Ziadé > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:42 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" > wrote: > >> One thing I find weird is the root page of packages.python.org -- This > >> warning is not super user friendly. > > > > What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? > > Please understand that

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I guess either http://pypi.python.org/pypi/distribute/docs or http://pypi.python.org/docs/distribute would be acceptable. The former won't work - it tries to get a version labeled "docs" from "distribute". As for the latter, see http://mail.python.org/pipermail/catalog-sig/2008-August/001723.ht

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:42 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> One thing I find weird is the root page of packages.python.org -- This >> warning is not super user friendly. > > What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? > Please understand that it may sound harsh, but is necessary

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread cool-RR
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:53 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > I think it's less about the content and more about the form. I think >> this warning belongs in a little `legal` section at the bottom, not as >> the first thing that a visitor sees. >> > > Are we talking about the same document? On > > h

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 21:42, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: >> One thing I find weird is the root page of packages.python.org -- This >> warning is not super user friendly. > > What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? It's rather the lack of design and just a link that seems a bi

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
I think it's less about the content and more about the form. I think this warning belongs in a little `legal` section at the bottom, not as the first thing that a visitor sees. Are we talking about the same document? On http://packages.python.org/ the warning *is* in the bottom of the page (no

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread cool-RR
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:42 PM, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote: > One thing I find weird is the root page of packages.python.org -- This >> warning is not super user friendly. >> > > What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? > Please understand that it may sound harsh, but is necess

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Martin v. Löwis
One thing I find weird is the root page of packages.python.org -- This warning is not super user friendly. What particular clause strikes you as particularly unfriendly? Please understand that it may sound harsh, but is necessary - better be safe than sorry. That said, maybe projects documenta

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:10 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 20:49, cool-RR wrote: >> Speaking of names, I would rename PyPI to packages.python.org, maybe move >> the existing documentation center to docs.python.org, and then move the docs >> of Python itself to a `/python` fol

Re: [Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread cool-RR
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 20:49, cool-RR wrote: > > Speaking of names, I would rename PyPI to packages.python.org, maybe > move > > the existing documentation center to docs.python.org, and then move the > docs > > of Python itself to a `/py

[Distutils] pypi/packages/docs.python.org

2011-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 20:49, cool-RR wrote: > Speaking of names, I would rename PyPI to packages.python.org, maybe move > the existing documentation center to docs.python.org, and then move the docs > of Python itself to a `/python` folder... > But that's just me. No, I do think docs.python.org

Re: [Distutils] Proposed change to buildout configuration-file handling

2011-03-06 Thread Jim Fulton
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Benji York wrote: > On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: >> An annoyance in buildout configurations, resulting from it's use of >> ConfigParser, is that configuration data lines are stripped of leading >> spaces. > > +1 > > How should we handle the de

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread cool-RR
Speaking of names, I would rename PyPI to packages.python.org, maybe move the existing documentation center to docs.python.org, and then move the docs of Python itself to a `/python` folder... But that's just me. On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:40 PM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > The winner is Wichert, wi

Re: [Distutils] Proposed change to buildout configuration-file handling

2011-03-06 Thread Benji York
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Jim Fulton wrote: > An annoyance in buildout configurations, resulting from it's use of > ConfigParser, is that configuration data lines are stripped of leading > spaces. +1 How should we handle the dedenting? Would both of these assignments produce the same res

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
The winner is Wichert, with "pyroma". I do like the "stickler" name, and the cheeseshop namespace, but since there is nothing else in that namespace I'll wait with it. It can easily be moved to a "cheeseshop.compliance" or whatever in the future, but that the moment it's "pyroma". I'll check it in

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Barry Warsaw
Excellent idea Lennart... On Mar 06, 2011, at 03:51 PM, Brad Allen wrote: >cheeseshop.critic >pypi.stickler I like the cheeseshop namespace used for this. Or maybe wenslydale :) http://orangecow.org/pythonet/sketches/cheese.htm -Barry signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 17:00, Tarek Ziadé wrote: > Reminds me a bit about "CheeseCake"   http://pycheesecake.org/ Indeed, it's a lot like CheeseCake, which I had forgot about and didn't find either by google, pypi or asking on #plone and #python. :-) However, there are a significant difference. C

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Tarek Ziadé
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:46 AM, Lennart Regebro wrote: > I've started working on a little utility to give a quality rating on > packages, expressed in 0-10 points, and also in cheese types, > according to smellyness. > > It's going to check for things like that it has all meta data it > should hav

Re: [Distutils] Proposed change to buildout configuration-file handling

2011-03-06 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Sun, Mar 06, 2011 at 10:34:01AM -0500, Jim Fulton wrote: > An annoyance in buildout configurations, resulting from it's use of > ConfigParser, is that configuration data lines are stripped of leading > spaces. ... > I propose to give buildout it's own parser that begaves like > ConfigParser, wit

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Brad Allen
On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 2:38 PM, Benji York wrote: > On Mar 6, 2011 3:47 AM, "Lennart Regebro" wrote: >> >> I've started working on a little utility to give a quality rating on >> packages, expressed in 0-10 points, and also in cheese types, >> according to smellyness. > > How about "cheese inspec

[Distutils] Proposed change to buildout configuration-file handling

2011-03-06 Thread Jim Fulton
An annoyance in buildout configurations, resulting from it's use of ConfigParser, is that configuration data lines are stripped of leading spaces. This means configurations like this: [paste.ini] recipe = zc.recipe.deployment:configuration text = [app:main] use = egg:bobo bobo_resources = cm

Re: [Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Benji York
On Mar 6, 2011 3:47 AM, "Lennart Regebro" wrote: > > I've started working on a little utility to give a quality rating on > packages, expressed in 0-10 points, and also in cheese types, > according to smellyness. How about "cheese inspecter"? -- Benji York ___

[Distutils] Name the software! Package quality tester.

2011-03-06 Thread Lennart Regebro
I've started working on a little utility to give a quality rating on packages, expressed in 0-10 points, and also in cheese types, according to smellyness. It's going to check for things like that it has all meta data it should have, such as author_email, specifies Python versions via the trove cl