On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
>> 3) I'd rather not have to mess with PATHEXT, and I particularly don't
>> want to have to tell my students to do it -- environment variables are
>> a pain, and somehow PATHEXT has been fragile for me (and I don't use
>> Cygwin)
>
> Nobody is su
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In the interests of getting more concrete data, can I suggest that
setuptools add an off-by-default option, which can be set globally using a
config
On 13 August 2013 21:20, Chris Barker - NOAA Federal
wrote:
> Conclusions:
>
> 1) an extra bunch of files is a on-issue for most users -- we just
> need something that works.
>
Agreed - the extra files "clutter" is a relatively small issue.
2) the exe launcher is a bit fragile and hard to mainta
Just $0.02 from a user...
I'm primarily an OS-X user these days, but have to do Windows once in
a while, and help others do Windows (including as an intro to Python
instructor)
Once I discovered setuptools "develop" mode, I never looked bak -- it
is simpl;y THE way to develop code, particularly i
On 13 August 2013 18:08, Oscar Benjamin wrote:
> On 13 August 2013 17:33, Paul Moore wrote:
> >
> > On another point you mention, Cygwin Python should be using Unix-style
> shell
> > script wrappers, not Windows-style exes, surely? The whole point of
> Cygwin
> > is that it emulates Unix, after
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:33 PM, Paul Moore wrote:
> This works, but is an ugly, fragile workaround. It's *not* a huge problem,
> it's just how executables work on Windows, and all installers have to deal
> with this dance (it's why a lot of things need a reboot to complete
> installation - the "
On Aug 10, 2013, at 9:07 PM, Donald Stufft wrote:
> [snip]
Bueller?
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On 13 August 2013 17:33, Paul Moore wrote:
>
> On another point you mention, Cygwin Python should be using Unix-style shell
> script wrappers, not Windows-style exes, surely? The whole point of Cygwin
> is that it emulates Unix, after all... So I don't see that as an argument
> either way.
So say
On 13 August 2013 16:58, PJ Eby wrote:
> > 5. Files in use can't be replaced. Because a Windows executable that's
> in use
> > is not allowed to be overwritten,
>
> But they can be renamed, and deleted afterwards. For example, when
> updating, you can do the simple dance of:
>
> 1. delete script
On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 8:54 AM, Jason R. Coombs wrote:
> 1. Renames, deletes, and other actions must be synchronized.
Why are you manually deleting or altering executables? Why are you
renaming them at all?
I've been using .exe wrappers since they were written, and have never
had a single one
> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Dower [mailto:steve.do...@microsoft.com]
> Sent: Monday, 12 August, 2013 15:03
>
> Jason R. Coombs wrote:
> > 6. Two to three files to do the job of one. In fact, the "job" isn't
> > much more than to invoke code elsewhere, so it seems ugly to require
>
Vinay Sajip yahoo.co.uk> writes:
> While distlib currently uses bespoke launchers, I plan to update it before
> the next release to use the PEP 397 launcher compiled with SCRIPT_WRAPPER.
One more data point - the launcher currently used by distlib is found at
[1]. Since it doesn't have all the b
On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 20:55 +, Vinay Sajip wrote:
> Donald Stufft stufft.io> writes:
>
> > Hopefully this all will solve this problem, as it is right now if you use
> > setuptools entry points then Wheels erroneously pretend to be platform
> > agnostic.
>
> That's not unreasonable, as long
On 13 August 2013 01:01, Greg Ewing wrote:
> Just a thought -- is there any need in this day and age
> for extensions to be limited to 3 characters?
>
There's a bug affecting PowerShell, which Microsoft have pretty much
confirmed that they won't fix, which means that longer extensions aren't
han
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