On Mon, 14 Apr 2008, Greg Ewing wrote:
> John J Lee wrote:
>> If you have a network connection, about the only reason for not wanting an
>> app to be "installed" is that it has changed the behaviour of your system
>> somehow, just by being in the "installed&
On Sun, 13 Apr 2008, Greg Ewing wrote:
> John J Lee wrote:
>
>> It allows you to think about "uninstallation" as "delete the app == delete
>> the file"
>
> But 0install doesn't do that, as far as I can tell -- it
> still keeps the data in some
On Sat, 12 Apr 2008, Greg Ewing wrote:
> John J Lee wrote:
>>> I keep hoping that someday Linux will support something
>>> like MacOSX application bundles and frameworks,
>>
>> Not the same, but "something like":
>>
>> http://0install.net/
On Thu, 10 Apr 2008, Greg Ewing wrote:
> Paul Moore wrote:
[...]
> I keep hoping that someday Linux will support something
> like MacOSX application bundles and frameworks, but I
> haven't seen any sign of it yet.
Not the same, but "something like":
http://0install.net/
John
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
> Hm. So it seems to me that maybe one thing that would help is a
> "Setuptools Haters' Guide To Setuptools" -- that is, *short*
> documentation specifically written for people who don't want to use
> setuptools and want to minimize its impact on th
On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, David Fraser wrote:
[...]
> So I need to go and code a test enumerator for py.test to discover tests
> within eggs (which is possible)
[...]
Or (for new code) use nose, which AIUI is intended to be pretty much
py.test implemented within the unittest framework (plus whatever bi
Apologies for being unable to resist going over old ground by responding
to this (moved here from the kid mailing list).
On Sat, 14 Oct 2006, Python wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-10-13 at 22:25 +0100, John J Lee wrote:
>> On Fri, 13 Oct 2006, Python wrote:
>> [...]
>>>
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Michael Foord wrote:
[...]
>> (except for the part about having a little Tkinter GUI to allow you to
>> install projects via a PyPI query and point and click -- that would still
>> be nice, especially wrt being friendly to new Python / easy_install users)
>>
> This would seem t
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
> Unfortunately, the details it gives are wrong. Neither cmd.exe, command.com,
> nor bash will find a program registered this way, at least on my Win2K PC.
[...]
> A little further investigation reveals that typing "start whatever" in a
> command
On Sat, 16 Sep 2006, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
> By the way, it's easy_install that we actually need to worry about, not
> ez_setup. ez_setup's only job is to download and run easy_install, which
> then handles everything from there. So both issues can be handled that way.
>
> Windows is probab
If an error occurs on the first download attempt, the subsequent attempts
by easy_install to download a file can't be properly interrupted with
Control-C (instead of terminating the process, it just jumps to the next
of ten or fifteen mirrors). Here's the fix:
---
/usr/lib/python2.4/site-pack
Somebody reported to me that one of my project releases [1] has suddenly
stopped being installable for people who don't already have setuptools
installed.
The breakage occurred because the recommended method for providing a
bootstrap (bundling ez_setup.py -- or FWIW, ez_setup/__init__.py, in my
[...]
> Heh -- that may have been part of the rationale, but it wasn't the cause.
> Several core Pythonistas objected in strong terms on python-dev to various
[...]
Oh sugar, didn't mean to post that, and risk stiring this up again, yawn
(I only meant to email it to KD).
Please ignore
John
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On Thu, 1 Jun 2006, Kevin Dangoor wrote:
> On 6/1/06, Phillip J. Eby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> (By the way: setuptools 0.6 is probably not going in the 2.5 stdlib; after
>> lots of discussion on Python-Dev, it's fairly clear that some 0.7 release
>> should be the earliest version to go in, onc
On Fri, 12 May 2006, Ian Bicking wrote:
> Mike Bernson wrote:
>> I want to use eggs for a non-open source project.
>>
>> What I would like to do is create a page that has all the eggs for the
>> project but
>> is password. I would then like easy_install to be able to access this
>> page. I see an
Subject line nearly sums it up, I guess: if I easy_install something and
get a zipped egg installed, then decide I wanted in unzipped:
easy_install -U -f --always-unzip
"http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/pyexcelerator/pyexcelerator-0.6.3a.zip?download";
pyExcelerator
...
Best match: pyexceler
The fix to this is obvious: s/url/fn/
...
"c:\python24\lib\site-packages\setuptools-0.6a11-py2.4.egg\setuptools\package_index.py",
line 182, in process_filename
self.warn("Not found: %s", url)
NameError: global name 'url' is not defined
John
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Attempting to install pyExcelerator, whose PyPI entry is out of date, I
tried pointing easy_install at this SF page:
http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=134081&package_id=148078
That times out (maybe due to the SF advertising pause?). Maybe it can be
worked around?
It worke
I seem to remember mention on python-dev of parts of setuptools going into
Python 2.5. Did that / will that happen?
If yes, any tips on updating packages & testing against 2.5 setuptools?
John
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On Mon, 3 Apr 2006, Charlie Moad wrote:
> Is it currently possible to upgrade dependencies as well when
> upgrading a packages? If not, this would be a really nice feature to
> add to easy_install. Maybe a call like:
[...]
I believe this is something Phillip hopes to do in 0.7, by adding suppor
Seems it would be nice to have the easy_install bootstrap installer create
easy_installX.Y links for each version X.Y of Python. As it is, you have
to fiddle with shell backticks, or type the full path to easy_install if
on Windows.
John
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Distuti
On Fri, 17 Mar 2006, Juha Tuomala wrote:
[...]
> In Linux world dependencies are handled with package management
> with RPM and yum/apt like tools. For me it looks that setuptools
> handles same area which is overlapping. I can see it's importance
> in systems like Solaris where its own package too
>From http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools :
* Create Python Eggs - a single-file importable distribution format
I know there's a tradeoff between accuracy and ease of understanding, but
this seems likely to cause confusion. Isn't it true that 1. the main
reason-for-being of E
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, John J Lee wrote:
[...]
> I suppose there's really no way around the commit to the tag.
...of course, I notice this blog comment from Philip Jenvey pointing out
how to avoid said commit *after* I post that:
http://blog.ianbicking.org/branching-practices.html#comme
On Sun, 19 Feb 2006, John J Lee wrote:
> To avoid committing to a tag just to alter setup.cfg, I found myself
> wanting to do something like this:
>
> python setup.py egg_info --tag-svn-revision=0 --tag-build='' sdist
Hmm, that doesn't actually work anyway, of course
To avoid committing to a tag just to alter setup.cfg, I found myself
wanting to do something like this:
python setup.py egg_info --tag-svn-revision=0 --tag-build='' sdist
but:
error: option --tag-svn-revision must not have an argument
Could this, or something similar, be made legal?
John
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On Wed, 8 Feb 2006, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
> happen. EasyInstall will now *only* go online if a dependency can't be
> resolved locally, if -U or --upgrade is used, or if you provided suitable
> direct URLs via an argument or --find-links, or via a link in a local .html
> file.
Great, that an
On Wed, 28 Dec 2005, Sharky On PTNet wrote:
I´m trying to do "easy_install setuptools==dev" in a windows box but have
an error with svn command.
"""... 'svn' is not recognized as an internal or external command, ..."""
[...]
Can you tell me what client I may use in windows?
http://subvers
On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Michael P. Soulier wrote:
import mechanize
help(mechanize)
> Traceback (most recent call last):
[...]
> OSError: [Errno 20] Not a directory:
> '/usr/lib/python2.3/site-packages/mechanize-0.0.11a-py2.3.egg/mechanize'
>
> Does this not work with egg files? Has anyone t
On Sat, 17 Dec 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
> 0.2.2.dev-r21160 was installed, but your requirement was for 0.2.2-r21160.
>
> The installed version is r21160 of an in-development pre-release of 0.2.2,
> while your requirement is for an r21160 *post*-release patch of 0.2.2.
>
> In other words
Annoying little issue: I have version strings here and there in my
projects, and would prefer to keep the version in a single place. In
particular, I have __version__ strings in module code, and also in
setup.py.
I also want to avoid importing code from setup.py, because people
sometimes want to
I got an error message while running setup.py develop that I don't
understand: seems the error message claims an automatic install of a
dependency failed, even though the dependency's egg actually did get
installed and appears correct.
(A bit tangential, but explanatory) background: Noting PJE's
On Wed, 14 Dec 2005, Todd Greenwood-Geer wrote:
[...]
> Anyone have any good naming conventions for module tests?
>
> [module name]_unittest.py
> test_[module_name].py
> unittest_[module_name].py
Hmm, I actually misread your question in your original email...
Python itself uses test_[module_name
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Todd Greenwood-Geer wrote:
[...]
> the setup.py for the given egg. So the question is, given that my
> friend/client is receiving eggs, how can they perform the equivalent of
> '$python setup.py test'? Currently, I have suggested that they unzip the
> egg and run the unittests d
On Mon, 5 Dec 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 08:45 PM 12/4/2005 +0000, John J Lee wrote:
[...]
> After giving this some thought, it seems to me that there might be a better
> way to conceptualize this. Instead of "choose 1 of N" dependencies, why not
> allow fallbacks f
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
> Well, there isn't really a way to do 1-of-N dependencies,
OK.
> since you would need a way for the user to pick one to be satisfied by
> easy_install.
That's not a "since", that's an "and" :-)
I know where you're coming from though, of course:
Is it possible for a package to depend on one of several packages, with
the user having the option to pick? For example, my package P might
depend on package A, plus either package B or package C.
I know I could (ab)use extras_require, but in my case this is a real
dependency rather than an optio
On Sat, 3 Dec 2005, Titus Brown wrote:
[...]
> -> 1). ez_setup.py is just the bootstrap script. Run it once, throw it away.
>
> Humm, I remember reading somewhere that it needed to be included. Can't
> find that any more, so it was probably a misunderstanding -- good to
> know!
It should be inc
Hi Titus
On Fri, 2 Dec 2005, Titus Brown wrote:
> it appears easy_install has trouble understanding package names with
> periods in them, e.g. "zope.testbrowser".
>
> Also, 'python ez_setup.py --help-commands' doesn't work; "unrecognized
> command".
1). ez_setup.py is just the bootstrap script.
On Fri, 25 Nov 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 11:02 PM 11/24/2005 +0000, John J Lee wrote:
[...]
>> -You should also inform your users of the need to run this command, if they
>> -are working from a Subversion checkout, rather than using EasyInstall to
>> -periodically fet
The comma removed by the patch below implies that users working from a
Subversion checkout should not use EasyInstall to periodically fetch the
latest version. That's not what you intended to say, I assume?
http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/setuptools
You should also inform your users of
On Wed, 23 Nov 2005, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
[...]
> I don't see how the maintainer could use the dependency information
> in the egg files.
The maintainers could use the dependency information in the egg files by
writing a tool to automatically map from the egg dep info to whatever
format their
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, John J Lee wrote:
[...]
> Actually, I believe this is the eventual primary intended mode of
> operation of eggs. In that case, the necessary sys.path manipulation is
> handled either by setuptools' wrapper scripts / wrapper .exe files calling
> require(versio
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 11:56 PM 11/22/2005 +0100, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
> >Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> >>>Debian should provide the packages, but not as eggs.
> >>
> >>For packages that only operate as eggs, and/or require their dependencies
> >>as eggs, you are stating a co
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005, "Martin v. Löwis" wrote:
> > As
> > I've already stated, applying this same policy to Java libraries would
> > be to demanding that all the .class files be extracted to the filesystem
> > and any manifest files be deleted, before Debian would consent to
> > package them. I
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 07:02 PM 11/1/2005 +0000, John J Lee wrote:
>> Yes, that works -- see attached patch, verified to work on my XP SP2
>> machine with native win32 SVN 1.2.3.
>
> Interestingly, I *am* able to reproduce your problem, but only
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, John J Lee wrote:
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
I wonder what the permission problem is, and if perhaps it could be fixed by
easy_install doing an os.walk() and chmod'ing the files and/or directories
before the rmtree?
I'll give it a try, jus
On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
[...]
> I wonder what the permission problem is, and if perhaps it could be fixed by
> easy_install doing an os.walk() and chmod'ing the files and/or directories
> before the rmtree?
I'll give it a try, just a minute...
John
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On Tue, 1 Nov 2005, John J Lee wrote:
[...]
> --- setuptools\command\easy_install.py~ Mon Oct 31 18:09:31 2005
> +++ setuptools\command\easy_install.py Tue Nov 01 11:12:53 2005
> @@ -318,7 +318,8 @@
>
> finally:
> if os.path.exists(tmpdir):
> -
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 08:37 PM 10/31/2005 +0000, John J Lee wrote:
>> svn: Unknown hostname 'svn.eby-sarna.com'
>
> This is a DNS problem that I just fixed (I think), please try again.
>
>
>> Problems:
>>
>> 1. Failure t
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 11:25 PM 10/31/2005 +0000, John J Lee wrote:
>
> >I eagerly anticipate the day when .require() installs at the start of
> >sys.path.
>
> It's not going to do that, but as of 0.6a6 eggs are placed before the
> d
On Mon, 31 Oct 2005, Phillip J. Eby wrote:
> At 08:37 PM 10/31/2005 +0000, John J Lee wrote:
> >svn: Unknown hostname 'svn.eby-sarna.com'
>
> This is a DNS problem that I just fixed (I think), please try again.
(Can't try from here, will try in the
Hi all, I'm trying to get some Egg/setuptools/easy_install-ified packages
working. I've run into three problems.
I'm running on Windows XP SP2 with Python 2.4.2. I believe I have the
latest easy_install. I have setuptools 0.6a6.
First, here's what I'm doing (readers should be able to duplica
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