Re: [Distutils] Distribute comments

2011-01-04 Thread K. Richard Pixley
On 1/4/11 06:40 , Alan Franzoni wrote: Hello, have you just seen distribute guide - which is just an update fork of the original setuptools distribution - or did you check out this as well?: http://guide.python-distribute.org/ Surely the setuptools/distribute fork has been painful so far, but

[Distutils] Distribute comments

2010-12-29 Thread K. Richard Pixley
I've just read through the Distribute doc for the first time and I have a few comments. First, I just want to say that the state of python packaging is a sad morass. It's not easy for someone to sort out distutils/setuptools/distribute to figure out how to get a package built and released on

Re: [Distutils] installing to a non-standard directory

2010-11-20 Thread K. Richard Pixley
On 20101119 17:51, P.J. Eby wrote: At 03:18 PM 11/19/2010 -0800, K. Richard Pixley wrote: I'm trying to install to a non-standard directory. Why? It makes a difference as to what the best way to do it is. For example, if you're planning to install a Python application or

[Distutils] installing to a non-standard directory

2010-11-19 Thread K. Richard Pixley
I'm trying to install to a non-standard directory. Something akin to "python setup.py install --prefix=`pwd`/junk" using gnu makefile standards semantics for --prefix but I can't seem to find the right arguments to install to make this happen. The closest I can seem to find is: python s

Re: [Distutils] Fwd: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7

2010-03-01 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Tarek Ziadé wrote: On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 7:44 PM, K. Richard Pixley wrote: Tarek Ziadé wrote: The rest of the work will happen in distutils2 and we will try to release a version asap for Python 2.x and 3.x (2.4 to 3.2), and the goal is to put it back in the stdlib in Python 3.3

Re: [Distutils] Fwd: The fate of Distutils in Python 2.7

2010-03-01 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Tarek Ziadé wrote: The rest of the work will happen in distutils2 and we will try to release a version asap for Python 2.x and 3.x (2.4 to 3.2), and the goal is to put it back in the stdlib in Python 3.3 Er... 2.4? Really? --rich ___ Distutils-SIG ma

Re: [Distutils] stdeb vs dependencies?

2010-02-08 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Andrew Straw wrote: K. Richard Pixley wrote: Andrew Straw wrote: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Provides} dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends} dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable

Re: [Distutils] stdeb vs dependencies?

2010-02-03 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Andrew Straw wrote: dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Provides} dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Depends} dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variable ${python:Provides} dpkg-gencontrol: warning: unknown substitution variab

Re: [Distutils] stdeb vs dependencies?

2010-02-02 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Andrew Straw wrote: What I'm seeing with stdeb-0.5.1 is that no dependencies are declared at all, but instead, I'm seeing unresolved macro references to ${python:Depends}. What exactly is the error? Can you post the traceback or other error? python-support should resolve this reference at .

[Distutils] stdeb vs dependencies?

2010-02-02 Thread K. Richard Pixley
What is the expected work flow around package dependencies between python packages and debs in stdeb? I was expecting it to declare any deb dependencies found, then translate any python dependencies into the names they would have if those pypi packages were translated using stdeb. What I'm se

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-05 Thread K. Richard Pixley
P.J. Eby wrote: At 07:25 AM 10/5/2009 -0700, K. Richard Pixley wrote: How do I delete a package using easy_install? http://peak.telecommunity.com/DevCenter/EasyInstall#uninstalling-packages That doesn't remove a package. It simply removes the package from the search path by one meth

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-05 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Alex Grönholm wrote: There is a lack of consensus regarding how exactly they should work. If we are having this much trouble deciding how a third party tool should work, it is certainly not going to be merged into distutils until those issues have been resolved. Distutils is what houses (or sh

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-05 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Lennart Regebro wrote: 2009/10/5 K. Richard Pixley : This would be a problem if distribute were in general release. It's not. It's clearly a development branch which is intended to move quickly. No, this is incorrect. The 0.6-branch is not intended to move quickly, it is

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-05 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Barry Warsaw wrote: On Oct 5, 2009, at 10:25 AM, K. Richard Pixley wrote: Python packaging and distribution right now is not for beginners or the faint of heart. If we're honest with ourselves, it's not for experienced developers either. Do you really even want to have to /think/

Re: [Distutils] Packaging Distribute

2009-10-05 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Sridhar Ratnakumar wrote: On Sun, 04 Oct 2009 13:41:06 -0700, Tarek Ziadé wrote: The other way would be to use Distribute instead of Setuptools for what the packaging system is calling "setuptools". That's pretty much what is happening in Gentoo (arch) and UHU-Linux (dev), right now Interest

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-05 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Ronald Oussoren wrote: This is a problem, it means 2.6.3 is not a simple drop-in replacement for 2.6.2 but requires the replacement of another component as well. That can be a problem in organizations with strict configuration management where you cannot install new software without going to

Re: [Distutils] Package install failures in 2.6.3 - setuptools vs Distribute

2009-10-05 Thread K. Richard Pixley
Ronald Oussoren wrote: For beginners this issue is a showstopper that they cannot resolve without help. I'm a relative beginner to distutils/setuptools/distribute, but a long time configuration/build/packaging professional. You're mistaken if you think that any of these technologies are sui