Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-13 Thread zooko
On Feb 12, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Ian Bicking wrote: I don't know that many people have used this (or know about it), but I added a command to buildutils (http://knowledgetap.com/hg/buildutils/) to do python setup.py bundle, which takes a package and all its dependencies and puts them together,

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-13 Thread Ian Bicking
zooko wrote: On Feb 12, 2008, at 9:35 PM, Ian Bicking wrote: I don't know that many people have used this (or know about it), but I added a command to buildutils (http://knowledgetap.com/hg/buildutils/) to do python setup.py bundle, which takes a package and all its dependencies and puts

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-12 Thread Ian Bicking
Tres Seaver wrote: My major beef with zc.buildout is perhaps actually a problem with the recipes nearly everybody uses: they blow away hand-edited stuff without warning. In particular, changes to things like the zope.conf file get zapped, because buildout (or the recipe) thinks that the file

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-11 Thread Noah Gift
Thanks guys. I have sent you both emails offline. On Feb 10, 2008, at 3:33 PM, zooko wrote: On Feb 10, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Feb 10, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Noah Gift wrote: In reference to this rather long discussion. I would love to get an interview or case study on

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-10 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 9, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, What are the alternatives to zc.buildout? I'm wondering before I plough

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-10 Thread Jim Fulton
On Feb 10, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Noah Gift wrote: In reference to this rather long discussion. I would love to get an interview or case study on buildout in the scope of package management for Python for the book I am co-authoring on Python For *nix Systems Administration. If there is an

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-10 Thread Noah Gift
I like buildout for development be because I don't have to inhabit the created artifacts. I (can) have a single high-level configuration that lets me control a variety of subsystems in one place. I'm sure this is a matter of taste. Jim -- Jim Fulton Zope Corporation In reference to

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-10 Thread zooko
On Feb 10, 2008, at 12:14 PM, Jim Fulton wrote: On Feb 10, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Noah Gift wrote: In reference to this rather long discussion. I would love to get an interview or case study on buildout in the scope of package management for Python for the book I am co-authoring on Python For

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-09 Thread Chris McDonough
Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, The standard installs for repoze.zope2, repoze.grok, repoze.plone, etc. all assume a virtualenv, and add scripts which turn the vanilla virtualenv into an instance.

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-09 Thread Martin Aspeli
Chris McDonough wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, The standard installs for repoze.zope2, repoze.grok, repoze.plone, etc. all assume a virtualenv, and add scripts which turn the vanilla virtualenv

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-09 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, What are the alternatives to zc.buildout? I'm wondering before I plough into zc.buildout because I'm guessing other big

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-09 Thread Chris McDonough
Martin Aspeli wrote: Chris McDonough wrote: Martin Aspeli wrote: Tres Seaver wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, I usually edit site-packages/easy_install.pth and delete the line that points to the egg. And either delete the egg, or not.

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-09 Thread Martin Aspeli
Tres Seaver wrote: My major beef with zc.buildout is perhaps actually a problem with the recipes nearly everybody uses: they blow away hand-edited stuff without warning. In particular, changes to things like the zope.conf file get zapped, because buildout (or the recipe) thinks that the

[Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-08 Thread Chris Withers
Hi All, What are the alternatives to zc.buildout? I'm wondering before I plough into zc.buildout because I'm guessing other big projects have run into the problem of pinning certain versions of eggs, building instance homes for projects, using a mixture of public eggs and those that are

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-08 Thread Marius Gedminas
On Fri, Feb 08, 2008 at 09:27:00AM -0500, Tres Seaver wrote: Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, What are the alternatives to zc.buildout? I'm wondering before I plough into zc.buildout because I'm guessing other big projects have run into the problem of pinning certain versions of

Re: [Distutils] alternatives to zc.buildout?

2008-02-08 Thread Tres Seaver
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Chris Withers wrote: Hi All, What are the alternatives to zc.buildout? I'm wondering before I plough into zc.buildout because I'm guessing other big projects have run into the problem of pinning certain versions of eggs, building instance