Re: [Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-14 Thread Mikel Maron
Yes. And in case you haven’t seen, the board has asked the lccwg to convene and come up with recommendations — including Code of Conduct and moderation processes — for the OSMF Board to adopt.  https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2020/12/11/message-from-osmf-board-chair-on-mailing-list-behavior/   Mi

Re: [Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-13 Thread arnalie faye vicario
The current Etiquette Guidelines is not enough. By the title, it is just a "guideline" - a suggestion or a piece of advice. We really need a *CODE* of Conduct that is enforceable with a committed moderator or working group. As a non-native English speaker, I have to look up the definitions in t

Re: [Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-09 Thread Jo Walsh
I continue to stand by the statement that a community CoC is there to protect under-represented people, not to enable privileged folks to tone police one other. In reverting edits and applying temporary blocks, one must look at intention not behaviour. Also everyone's on edge now for reasons t

Re: [Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-09 Thread Mikel Maron
The etiquette guidelines have issues, but I’m not sure that’s one. If there was moderation and enforcement in place, than we wouldn’t need to call out publicly. Moderator could step in to do that. Prefer that way of handling it. Mikel On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 11:33 AM, Rory McCann wrot

[Diversity-talk] Etiquette Guidelines bad | Re: Code of conduct

2020-12-09 Thread Rory McCann
Have any of yous read the Ettiquette Guidelines¹? They're rubbish. Frederik broke them by publically calling Mike Migurski out, and for not assuming he was acting in good faith. *But* if anyone publishes something saying “What Frederik did was wrong” (like I (& others) did), then they are also