Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 9:40 AM, Nick Phillips wrote: > On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 09:00 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > >> These all strike me as messages appropriate for a warning -- they're >> all slightly concerning indications that you're either under some sort >> of attack, or at the very lea

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Nick Phillips
On Wed, 2010-09-29 at 09:00 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > These all strike me as messages appropriate for a warning -- they're > all slightly concerning indications that you're either under some sort > of attack, or at the very least that your users are having a bad > experience on your site

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Ian Lewis wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Nick Phillips > wrote: >> I'm worried by the use of "warning" for all 4xx statuses. I think it >> still makes sense to use the "original" syslog level definitions[*] as a >> guide, and on there I'd sugge

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
2010/9/29 Łukasz Rekucki : > On 28 September 2010 17:45, Ian Lewis wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Nick Phillips >> wrote: >>> I'm worried by the use of "warning" for all 4xx statuses. I think it >>> still makes sense to use the "original" syslog level definitions[*] as a >>>

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Russell Keith-Magee
On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 7:43 PM, Luke Plant wrote: > On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 14:16 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > >>  * The default logging configuration. Have I got the >> propagate/override options right for sensible defaults (both in global >> and new-project settings)? > > I just noticed th

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Łukasz Rekucki
On 28 September 2010 17:45, Ian Lewis wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Nick Phillips > wrote: >> I'm worried by the use of "warning" for all 4xx statuses. I think it >> still makes sense to use the "original" syslog level definitions[*] as a >> guide, and on there I'd suggest tha

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Alex Gaynor
I don't see how a 302 because someone posted something is any less debug thann the 200 to serve thhhe get. Bikesheddinngly yours, Alex On Sep 28, 2010 11:45 AM, "Ian Lewis" wrote: Hi, On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Nick Phillips wrote: > I'm worried by ... I'm split on this myself but I th

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Ian Lewis
Hi, On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:19 AM, Nick Phillips wrote: > I'm worried by the use of "warning" for all 4xx statuses. I think it > still makes sense to use the "original" syslog level definitions[*] as a > guide, and on there I'd suggest that some 4xx statuses would merit > "Info", some "Notice",

Re: Changes to LazySettings

2010-09-28 Thread akaariai
On Sep 28, 3:42 am, Luke Plant wrote: > But can anyone else think of any gotchas with this change before I > commit it? It produces a 30% improvement for the benchmark that relates > to the ticket [3]. Not directly related to this change, but there are at least one part in Django that will cache

testsuite [was: four NoSQL backends you want? :)]

2010-09-28 Thread Mark Bucciarelli
On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 08:37:08PM -0400, Alex Gaynor wrote: > > While developing my backend I basically ignored the existing tests > because it was impossible to learn anything from 700 test failures, > of which some are "expected and never will pass" (e.g. ones testing > that we generate only one

Re: #12012 Logging: request for comments

2010-09-28 Thread Luke Plant
On Sat, 2010-09-25 at 14:16 +0800, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > * The default logging configuration. Have I got the > propagate/override options right for sensible defaults (both in global > and new-project settings)? I just noticed that the project template settings and the global settings are

Re: four NoSQL backends you want? :)

2010-09-28 Thread Thomas Wanschik
On 28 Sep., 02:45, Russell Keith-Magee wrote: > So - the real goal is to ensure that you can use forms and generic > views with NoSQL stores, not to ensure that you take an app built > using a relational store, and deploy it on a NoSQL store. If that's the real goal then we've reached it alread