Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-26 Thread Maluku
On 26 Dez., 19:10, "Dave Smith" wrote: > There are several use cases that an 'else' simplifies. > Seehttp://code.djangoproject.com/ticket/4534 > andhttp://code.djangoproject.com/changeset/8095for the patch. I included it, might make things easier.. I just saw: {%

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-26 Thread Dave Smith
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 9:54 AM, James Bennett wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Maluku > wrote: > > Kind of different question: Why is there no {% else %} in {% ifchanged > > %}, I think it might be a help to some people. > >

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-26 Thread James Bennett
On Fri, Dec 26, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Maluku wrote: > Kind of different question: Why is there no {% else %} in {% ifchanged > %}, I think it might be a help to some people. Because it wouldn't make any sense; the point of 'ifchanged' is to say "I have a special thing

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-26 Thread Maluku
On 26 Dez., 08:54, "Adam Findley" wrote: > The real tragedy here is that the Django Template system is great, but > it's name is "tightly coupled" to the Django Project. > > I think DTL is a great and common standard and what people will be looking > for. > > What's wrong

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-25 Thread Adam Findley
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 10:50 AM, Maluku wrote: > > On 22 Dez., 17:11, Barry Peder >> In addition to DojoX DTL, there's an Erlang library: ErlyDTL >> (http://code.google.com/p/erlydtl/), and a PHP library: Calypso DTL >> >> just an FYI that there are at least three

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-22 Thread Maluku
On 22 Dez., 17:11, Barry Peder > In addition to DojoX DTL, there's an Erlang library: ErlyDTL > (http://code.google.com/p/erlydtl/), and a PHP library: Calypso DTL > > just an FYI that there are at least three other "DTL"s out there, so > DTL would have some company. > It would certainly produce

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-22 Thread Barry Pederson
Maluku wrote: > DTL seems to be too short... In addition to DojoX DTL, there's an Erlang library: ErlyDTL ( http://code.google.com/p/erlydtl/ ), and a PHP library: Calypso DTL just an FYI that there are at least three other "DTL"s out there, so DTL would have some company. Barry

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-21 Thread Eric Holscher
Name it whatever you want. It's your bikeshed. Eric On Sun, Dec 21, 2008 at 11:55 PM, Maluku wrote: > > DTL seems to be too short... > > What about "Dotiac" (DjangO Template Interpreter And Compiler), which > works as a name and an abbreviation. > > Maluku > > > > >

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-21 Thread Maluku
DTL seems to be too short... What about "Dotiac" (DjangO Template Interpreter And Compiler), which works as a name and an abbreviation. Maluku --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Django developers"

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-17 Thread Jacob Kaplan-Moss
On Wed, Dec 17, 2008 at 7:25 PM, Maluku wrote: > So how about the legal side of it? Do I have to include the source > code for Django in every distribution, since my work is derived from > your documentation or is just a link enough? A link is fine. Jacob

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-17 Thread Maluku
Ok, there is no other module called anywhere like that and even wikipedia has entry for DTL that comes close. I have requested to rename the module to DTL or DTL::Template, will tell you what happens after I hear back. So how about the legal side of it? Do I have to include the source code for

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread James Bennett
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:04 PM, Eugene Lazutkin wrote: > Some people are blessed with being naturally confused without external > factors. Indeed. Documenting that something implements the same format as Django templates will only confuse people who were already

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Eugene Lazutkin
flo...@gmail.com wrote: >> Actually, they call their package "dojox.dtl". Their documentation >> explains that it implements the Django template language. Yep: http://dojotoolkit.org/book/dojo-book-0-9/part-5-dojox/dojox-dtl > Even still, at a local Python meetup a little over a month ago, >

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Maluku
On 17 Dez., 05:46, "flo...@gmail.com" wrote: > > Actually, they call their package "dojox.dtl". Their documentation > > explains that it implements the Django template language. > > Even still, at a local Python meetup a little over a month ago, > someone raised their hand

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Jannis Leidel
Am 17.12.2008 um 04:11 schrieb Maluku: > It called it that, because it provides a template language like > Django, but if this is a problem I will call it something else. > Apache is a bad example, since many modules that _use_ Apache are also > in the Apache:: Namespace, like Apache::Template

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread flo...@gmail.com
> Actually, they call their package "dojox.dtl". Their documentation > explains that it implements the Django template language. Even still, at a local Python meetup a little over a month ago, someone raised their hand and asked a question that went something like this: "I saw that Django

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread James Bennett
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 10:32 PM, alex.gay...@gmail.com wrote: > I am not a legal expert(that's Justin's job ;-) ), but there is a > precedent for a derivative template language going by the same name, > Dojo also implements the Django template language and calls it just >

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread alex.gay...@gmail.com
I am not a legal expert(that's Justin's job ;-) ), but there is a precedent for a derivative template language going by the same name, Dojo also implements the Django template language and calls it just that. That being said, that, amongst other things preceded the existence of the DSF. Alex

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Maluku
On 17 Dez., 04:23, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > So the problem that you are now mentioning is that you registered the > name first and decided to ask check if there might be a problem only > afterwards. I'm really not trying to be a hard-ass here, but that's not > a

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Justin Lilly
I find it interesting that no one has brought up jinja. They did something that follows django's template syntax, and have still built up a community. There is also the ruby version which is called liquid iirc that borrows heavily from django's syntax. Basically, it doesn't need django in

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Jeremy Sandell
On Dec 16, 9:32 pm, Justin Bronn wrote: > > I'm not sure if I work is derived from yours, since I only used the > > documentation (http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/ref/templates/builtins/) > > for my work, but I thougt I would better just ask: > > > Would you please allow

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 21:18 -0600, Arien wrote: > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick > wrote: > > > > All of this is predicated on using the word "Django" in the name, which > > is the bit I have a problem with. > > How is this different from, e.g.,

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread alvaro
Call it Reinhardt, like the surname of Django :-) On Dec 17, 2008, at 11:18 AM, Arien wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick > wrote: >> >> All of this is predicated on using the word "Django" in the name, >> which >> is the bit I have a

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Tue, 2008-12-16 at 19:11 -0800, Maluku wrote: > On 17 Dez., 03:36, Malcolm Tredinnick > wrote: > > It's very easy: you just don't call it that. Why does it require > > "change"? > > I have discussed this with the perl naming people here: >

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Arien
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 8:36 PM, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > > All of this is predicated on using the word "Django" in the name, which > is the bit I have a problem with. How is this different from, e.g., any of these? http://code.google.com/hosting/search?q=django-

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Maluku
On 17 Dez., 03:36, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > It's very easy: you just don't call it that. Why does it require > "change"? I have discussed this with the perl naming people here: http://www.nntp.perl.org/group/perl.modules/2008/12/msg63533.html > Choose a different

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Mike Axiak
Hi, > Changing the namespace is not that easy, sadly. But I can make a > statement that this has nothing to do with the Djangoproject into the > namespace description. That one can be seen everywhere the name is > displayed. Um... I know you registered your namespace with CPAN, but as far as I

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Maluku
On 17 Dez., 03:15, Malcolm Tredinnick wrote: > Legalities aside, I'd prefer this wasn't done. It will induce confusion > as there will be some people who think it's associated with the Django > project. Having a description that says it implements the same >

Re: Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Malcolm Tredinnick
On Wed, 2008-12-17 at 01:49 +0100, Marc Lucksch wrote: > I'm currently working on a port of the django template system to perl. > It is going to be called Django::Template, and it is almost finished, > some filters missing, cleaning up the documentation and writing tests. > > My

Perl port of the django template system.

2008-12-16 Thread Marc Lucksch
I'm currently working on a port of the django template system to perl. It is going to be called Django::Template, and it is almost finished, some filters missing, cleaning up the documentation and writing tests. My problem is now: By calling it Django::Template I'm using your name "D