Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - From: Douglas Otis doug.mtv...@gmail.com To: Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org Cc: Ned Freed ned.fr...@mrochek.com, dmarc@ietf.org, Murray S. Kucherawy superu...@gmail.com, Douglas Otis doug.mtv...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2014 11:58:00 PM

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, superu...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:47:20 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback What sort of remedy would you suggest here? Off the

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, superu...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:47:20 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback For From: headers with address-free groups, recall

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Hector Santos
On 11/8/2014 8:29 PM, Franck Martin wrote: Note that an email with no RFC 5322 field is not valid, as well as one with more than 1. This header is mandatory as well as the Date header. These are the only 2 headers mandatory in an email. So rejecting an email with no RFC 5322 or more than one

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Hector Santos
On 11/9/2014 4:19 AM, Franck Martin wrote: I'm not talking on how many mailboxes/domain there are in this header It would be wrong to assume SMTP will reject messages based on possible RFC5322 violations. While SMTP implementations have been lenient, they have been lenient in a way which

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Tim Draegen
On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: There are no secret sauces. I thought it was clear this type of language on this list is frown upon as non constructive? Just a point of clarification here. The original author was referring to decisions that

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Stephen J. Turnbull
Trimming the CC list, as we're getting into spam-trap numbers of mailboxes. Rolf E. Sonneveld writes: The current effort to publish DMARC as informational RFC is mainly, to document the current specification 'as is', to be able to refer from other documents to a published spec. The

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 9, 2014 4:31:31 AM EST, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: - Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org, superu...@gmail.com Sent: Friday, November 7, 2014 10:47:20 AM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf]

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Franck Martin
Printed on recycled paper! On Nov 9, 2014, at 09:43, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: On November 9, 2014 4:31:31 AM EST, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: - Original Message - From: ned+dm...@mrochek.com To: John Levine jo...@taugh.com Cc:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
On 11/09/2014 04:03 PM, Tim Draegen wrote: On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: There are no secret sauces. I thought it was clear this type of language on this list is frown upon as non constructive? Just a point of clarification here. The original author

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
On 11/08/2014 01:40 AM, J. Trent Adams wrote: [...] 5.6.2. Determine Handling Policy To arrive at a policy disposition for an individual message, Mail Receivers MUST perform the following actions or their semantic equivalents. Steps 2-4 MAY be done in parallel, whereas steps 5 and 6 require

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Franck Martin
Printed on recycled paper! On Nov 9, 2014, at 10:27, Rolf E. Sonneveld r.e.sonnev...@sonnection.nl wrote: On 11/09/2014 04:03 PM, Tim Draegen wrote: On Nov 8, 2014, at 8:38 PM, Franck Martin fra...@peachymango.org wrote: There are no secret sauces. I thought it was clear this type of

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Brett McDowell
On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: We would like to apply the most strict policy, but doesn't that conflict with the p=none policy, where Domain Owners can start gathering reports without having to bother about impact on the disposition of their

Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback

2014-11-09 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - From: Brett McDowell brettmcdow...@gmail.com To: Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com Cc: dmarc@ietf.org Sent: Sunday, November 9, 2014 12:30:31 PM Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] draft-kucherawy-dmarc-base feedback On Sun, Nov 9, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Scott Kitterman