Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

2014-11-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Monday, December 01, 2014 03:56:42 John Levine wrote: > >So the edge system generates a bounce message (MDN). Knowing that > >RFC5321.MailFrom will "<>". To be DMARC compliant the RFC5321.HELO/.EHLO > >name must be align with the RFC5322.From of the MDN. > Why wouldn't you add a DKIM signature t

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

2014-11-30 Thread José Ferreira
- Original Message - > From: "John Levine" > To: dmarc@ietf.org > Cc: "jose ferreira" > Sent: Monday, December 1, 2014 3:56:42 AM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows) > > Why wouldn't you add a DKIM signature that matches the domain name in > the messa

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

2014-11-30 Thread John Levine
>So the edge system generates a bounce message (MDN). Knowing that >RFC5321.MailFrom will "<>". >To be DMARC compliant the RFC5321.HELO/.EHLO name must be align with the >RFC5322.From of the MDN. Why wouldn't you add a DKIM signature that matches the domain name in the message From: line? The e

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

2014-11-30 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - > From: "José Ferreira" > To: "Hector Santos" > Cc: dmarc@ietf.org > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 11:58:32 AM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows) > > Forget about ML. I'm not only talking about ML but for a specific situat

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

2014-11-30 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - > From: "Stephen J. Turnbull" > To: "José Ferreira" > Cc: dmarc@ietf.org > Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:22:13 PM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows) > > José Ferreira writes: > > > I think there should be a wider referenc

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

2014-11-30 Thread José Ferreira
- Original Message - > From: "Hector Santos" > To: "José Ferreira" > Cc: dmarc@ietf.org > Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2014 3:42:13 PM > Subject: Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows) > > All I reading (and it seems to be subsiding) are ML folks trying to > advocat

Re: [dmarc-ietf] DMARC and Bounces (was: Indirect Mail Flows)

2014-11-30 Thread Hector Santos
On 11/29/2014 7:04 AM, José Ferreira wrote: Like is said, they are rare but important. And some domain owners may not adopt p=reject for that reason. Jose Borges Ferreira Domains that publish a p=reject and don 't understand its possible outcomes, shouldn't be our (IETF protocol standards d