Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Terry Zink tz...@exchange.microsoft.com wrote: 1. For Hotmail, every mailing list that our users are signed up for would result in a new DNS entry. How do we manage the lifecycle around that? Should we automate its addition? Should we automate its removal? Do

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Hector Santos
On 4/15/2015 2:08 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Terry Zink tz...@exchange.microsoft.com wrote: 1. For Hotmail, every mailing list that our users are signed up for would result in a new DNS entry. How do we manage the lifecycle around that? Should we automate

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Hector Santos
Hi Terry, I understand your point. Just consider, Microsoft still has its DNS TXT record for its original Caller ID for Email Protocol (CEP), the original clone of SPF that eventually became Sender-ID: D:\Users\Administratorlmap _ep.hotmail.com Server: ns.santronics.com Address:

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, April 15, 2015 02:41:36 PM Hector Santos wrote: On 4/15/2015 2:08 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Terry Zink tz...@exchange.microsoft.com wrote: 1. For Hotmail, every mailing list that our users are signed up for would result in a new DNS

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Wed, Apr 15, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Scott Kitterman skl...@kitterman.com wrote: For the umpteenth time, the issue isn't managing a DNS zone. That's the easy part. The hard part is knowing what to put in it. Many companies, not even the really big ones, have thousands of domains. Go publish

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Hector Santos
On 4/15/2015 6:11 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: Also, if one were to interpret the Pareto Principle correctly, it actually favors the idea that the only things we should consider are the ones the large operators are willing to adopt, which means it's abundantly clear that registration

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Hector Santos
On 4/15/2015 4:39 PM, Scott Kitterman wrote: For the umpteenth time, the issue isn't managing a DNS zone. That's the easy part. The hard part is knowing what to put in it. Right. I never said it was hard problem. This didn't stop the large domain with SPF in adding INCLUDE and still have

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Publishing and Registration Concerns

2015-04-15 Thread Terry Zink
For the umpteenth time, the issue isn't managing a DNS zone. That's the easy part. The hard part is knowing what to put in it. Many companies, not even the really big ones, have thousands of domains. Go publish SPF, DKIM key, and DMARC records for 4,000 domains and then tell me it's