Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Dave Crocker
On 5/18/2015 10:58 AM, Rolf E. Sonneveld wrote: >> The first question is: what are the 'types' of changes that have been >> or might be proposed? > > Please define 'changes'. Do you mean: changes which solve the 'p=reject' > problem for mail that is sent via an intermediary? Or just 'any' changes

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 10:56 PM, Terry Zink wrote: > Thanks, this is useful. > > What would the Authentication-Results header look like? Presumably 3 > results for DKIM (dkim=fail, dkim=pass, dkim=pass)? And what about DMARC? > Show one result or two? Or maybe something like dmarc=conditionalpa

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Terry Zink
Thanks, this is useful. What would the Authentication-Results header look like? Presumably 3 results for DKIM (dkim=fail, dkim=pass, dkim=pass)? And what about DMARC? Show one result or two? Or maybe something like dmarc=conditionalpass? -- Terry From: Murra

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Douglas Otis
On 5/18/15 6:18 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > Ideally on receipt by a list subscriber, the message would have the > following DKIM signatures: > > DKIM-Signature: v=1; d=authordomain.example; s=selector; ... > DKIM-Signature: v=2; d=authordomain.example; s=selector; !cd=mlm.example; > l=0; ...

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 5:36 PM, Terry Zink wrote: > > I've implemented it now in libopendkim as a compile-time experimental > feature, > > and it took me about four hours including testing. I just have to add > it to the plugin > > that uses the library, and it'll be available for others to pl

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Terry Zink
> I've implemented it now in libopendkim as a compile-time experimental feature, > and it took me about four hours including testing. I just have to add it to > the plugin > that uses the library, and it'll be available for others to play with. Can you give an example of what the stamped headers

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Douglas Otis
On 5/17/15 7:38 PM, Stephen J. Turnbull wrote: > Scott Kitterman writes: >> On May 17, 2015 2:48:58 PM AST, "Stephen J. Turnbull" >> wrote: >>> Scott Kitterman writes: >>> Performing prosepective DMARC validation on receipt to determine if mail would be subject to p=reject processing o

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Looking for degrees of freedom with Intermediaries - Effort and Policy

2015-05-18 Thread Rolf E. Sonneveld
On 05/15/2015 10:28 PM, Dave Crocker wrote: G'day. In looking for ways to make a DMARC-style function succeed when the message transits an intermediary, the current approach has mostly been proposing one or another wholesale solution. This creates a complex space for discussion and tends toward