Re: [dmarc-ietf] Lookup Limitations For Public Suffix Domains

2018-11-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
Thanks. That refreshes my memory. I think it's a proposal that has potential to be an eventual standardized replacement for using the public suffix and we should look into publishing a DMARC specific variation. It doesn't, however, seem to address the issue described in the draft's privacy co

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Lookup Limitations For Public Suffix Domains

2018-11-30 Thread Tim Wicinski
https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-levine-dbound-dns-01.txt On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 8:04 PM Scott Kitterman wrote: > On Friday, November 30, 2018 07:33:00 PM John Levine wrote: > > In article <3881693.rR9BVk4Dlq@kitterma-e6430> you write: > > >2. Externalize signaling about PSD participati

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Lookup Limitations For Public Suffix Domains

2018-11-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Friday, November 30, 2018 07:33:00 PM John Levine wrote: > In article <3881693.rR9BVk4Dlq@kitterma-e6430> you write: > >2. Externalize signaling about PSD participation. As discussed in the > >Privacy Considerations (section 4.1), we were concerned about the privacy > >implications of feedback

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Lookup Limitations For Public Suffix Domains

2018-11-30 Thread John Levine
In article <3881693.rR9BVk4Dlq@kitterma-e6430> you write: >2. Externalize signaling about PSD participation. As discussed in the >Privacy Considerations (section 4.1), we were concerned about the privacy >implications of feedback on organizational domain traffic for organizational >domains tha

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Lookup Limitations For Public Suffix Domains

2018-11-30 Thread Scott Kitterman
On November 30, 2018 9:40:33 PM UTC, Zeke Hendrickson wrote: >On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:37:19AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: >> While we were discussing making draft-kitterman-dmarc-psd a working >group >> item, the main discussion point was about the use of an IANA registry >to >> identif

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Lookup Limitations For Public Suffix Domains

2018-11-30 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 1:40 PM Zeke Hendrickson wrote: > > I feel that restricting the additional PSD check to nonexistent > organizational domains is the best approach, I disagree...see below > as it preserves the opt-in nature of DMARC, granted > limits privacy concerns, No - this is

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Lookup Limitations For Public Suffix Domains

2018-11-30 Thread Zeke Hendrickson
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:37:19AM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: > While we were discussing making draft-kitterman-dmarc-psd a working group > item, the main discussion point was about the use of an IANA registry to > identify participating public suffix domains. I think it would be useful to >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmarc-rfc7601bis-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-30 Thread Alexey Melnikov
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018, at 8:54 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > Murray, would you please copy the relevant IANA Considerations > sections from RFC 7601 into 7601bis and change the tenses > appropriately (perhaps just with a sentence in each subsection that > says, "The following was done in the previous edi

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmarc-rfc7601bis-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-30 Thread Ben Campbell
In case it’s not obvious, that would be sufficient for me to clear. Thanks! Ben. > On Nov 30, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > > Murray, would you please copy the relevant IANA Considerations > sections from RFC 7601 into 7601bis and change the tenses > appropriately (perhaps just with a

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmarc-rfc7601bis-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-30 Thread Barry Leiba
Murray, would you please copy the relevant IANA Considerations sections from RFC 7601 into 7601bis and change the tenses appropriately (perhaps just with a sentence in each subsection that says, "The following was done in the previous edition of this document, RFC 7601:", or some such), and then le

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmarc-rfc7601bis-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-30 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Fri, Nov 30, 2018 at 11:00 AM Alexey Melnikov wrote: > Hi all, > > On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > > I actually agree with this: I think the better answer is to go back to > > "obsoletes" and to have this document include the details of what was > > put in the registries

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ben Campbell's Discuss on draft-ietf-dmarc-rfc7601bis-04: (with DISCUSS and COMMENT)

2018-11-30 Thread Alexey Melnikov
Hi all, On Wed, Nov 21, 2018, at 9:39 PM, Barry Leiba wrote: > I actually agree with this: I think the better answer is to go back to > "obsoletes" and to have this document include the details of what was > put in the registries before. But the working group decided to do it > the other way, and