Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

2019-07-24 Thread Dotzero
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 7:07 PM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:45 PM Steve Atkins > wrote: > >> > It's interesting that the industry has decided to interpret "p=reject; >> pct=0" the way we intended "p=quarantine; pct=100". >> >> It's semi-explicitly defined that way in t

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

2019-07-24 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 4:45 PM Steve Atkins wrote: > > It's interesting that the industry has decided to interpret "p=reject; > pct=0" the way we intended "p=quarantine; pct=100". > > It's semi-explicitly defined that way in the RFC, isn't it? > If so, we should fix it because (a) I don't think

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

2019-07-24 Thread Steve Atkins
> On Jul 24, 2019, at 9:07 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > > OK, I see what you're getting at.. > > It's interesting that the industry has decided to interpret "p=reject; pct=0" > the way we intended "p=quarantine; pct=100". It's semi-explicitly defined that way in the RFC, isn't it? Cheer

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

2019-07-24 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
OK, I see what you're getting at. It's interesting that the industry has decided to interpret "p=reject; pct=0" the way we intended "p=quarantine; pct=100". As for your proposal: On Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:52 PM Дилян Палаузов wrote: > And then, for p=none or any equivalent form of it, there i

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

2019-07-24 Thread Дилян Палаузов
Hello, (I repeat what was said here, just in case) As it was pointed out, p=quarantine; pct=0; is the same as p=none; and p=reject; ptc=0; is the same as p=quarantine; pct=100, therefore p=quarantine; pct=0 is not the same as p=reject; pct=0 currently, per https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7489#

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

2019-07-24 Thread Vladimir Dubrovin
Hello Murray, Yes, rewriting depends on policy. Look at From: headers for this mailing list (dmarc@ietf.org), you can see it only munges From address for domain with strict DMARC policy (if RFC5322.From domain publishes "quarantine" or "reject" policy). This is very common behavior, it can also b

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Abolishing DMARC policy quarantine

2019-07-24 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 12:25 PM Vladimir Dubrovin wrote: > Nope, I mean 2 different things. > > 1. Why quarantine is useful (with pct=0). > > For example this mailing list (dmarc@ietf.org) performs From rewrite (aka > From munging), e.g. dubro...@corp.mail.ru is replaced with > dubrovin=40corp.m