Re: [dmarc-ietf] Report bombing is a prolem, Forensic report loops are not

2021-01-29 Thread John Levine
In article you write: >3.3. Transport > >Email streams carrying DMARC failure reports MUST conform to the >DMARC mechanism, thereby resulting in an aligned "pass". Special >care must be taken of authentication, as failure to authenticate >failure reports may provoke further repor

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-10.txt

2021-01-29 Thread Dave Crocker
On 1/29/2021 12:15 PM, Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:51 AM Dave Crocker > wrote: Abstract DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance) is a scalable mechanism by which a mail-originating o

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #1 - SPF alignment

2021-01-29 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 3:02 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: > I just run a quick test on my current folder. Out of 3879 messages I > extracted > 944 unique helo names. 721 of these matched the reverse lookup exactly. > Out > of the 223 remaining, 127 had an SPF pass for the helo identity anyway. >

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-10.txt

2021-01-29 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 7:51 AM Dave Crocker wrote: > > Abstract > >DMARC (Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and >Conformance) is a scalable mechanism by which a mail-originating >organization can express domain-level policies and preferences for >message validation,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08

2021-01-29 Thread Murray S. Kucherawy
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 8:21 AM Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: > On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 6:52 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > >> >> I suggest adding it to this paragraph: >> >>This document specifies experimental updates to the DMARC and PSL >>algorithm cited above, in an attempt to mitigate this abu

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08

2021-01-29 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 29/Jan/2021 19:11:56 +0100 I wrote: I attach a patch. P.S. It also changed the example slightly. It sounds wrong as is now. Pls look at that... Best Ale -- ___ dmarc mailing list dmarc@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mai

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08

2021-01-29 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Fri 29/Jan/2021 17:21:19 +0100 Kurt Andersen (b) wrote: On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 6:52 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: I suggest adding it to this paragraph: This document specifies experimental updates to the DMARC and PSL algorithm cited above, in an attempt to mitigate this abuse. upda

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08

2021-01-29 Thread Kurt Andersen (b)
On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 6:52 AM Tim Wicinski wrote: > > I suggest adding it to this paragraph: > >This document specifies experimental updates to the DMARC and PSL >algorithm cited above, in an attempt to mitigate this abuse. > update to DMARC = yes; update to PSL = no > On Fri, Jan 29

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-10.txt

2021-01-29 Thread Dave Crocker
On 1/29/2021 6:59 AM, Tim Wicinski wrote: This starts a *one week* Working Group Last Call. Sorry, but even the Abstract appears to be littered with problematic language. I always try to provide alternate language, when I can, but in spite of having offered suggestions for this document in

[dmarc-ietf] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-10.txt

2021-01-29 Thread Tim Wicinski
All We've done a number of updates to the PSD document to reflect the GEN-ART review, mostly to expand on the experiments. There has been enough changes that we want to do a short working group last call. https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-10 To look at the differences, I would su

Re: [dmarc-ietf] [Gen-art] [Last-Call] Genart last call review of draft-ietf-dmarc-psd-08

2021-01-29 Thread Tim Wicinski
I suggest adding it to this paragraph: This document specifies experimental updates to the DMARC and PSL algorithm cited above, in an attempt to mitigate this abuse. On Fri, Jan 29, 2021 at 1:44 AM Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: > On Fri, Jan 22, 2021 at 5:01 PM Tim Wicinski wrote: > >> Si

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Ticket #1 - SPF alignment

2021-01-29 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Thu 28/Jan/2021 21:40:49 +0100 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote: On Thu, Jan 28, 2021 at 4:13 AM Alessandro Vesely wrote: DKIM (in its simplest form) returns N tuples of the form (d= domain, pass/fail). All of them were run through exactly the same check; all of them were attached to the message