Re: [dmarc-ietf] Data Query: Non-existent subdomains

2022-03-15 Thread Douglas Foster
Perhaps you can connect with a current client or former colleague who is doing mail operations. I am looking for at least one example of an illegitimate message that uses a non-existent subdomain in the From address. To be clear, I am talking about messages where MAILFROM and FROM are not

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Data Query: Non-existent subdomains

2022-03-15 Thread Douglas Foster
I started from the assumption that we would want to generalize NP into organizations. But after spending a lot of time on the subject for the last 15 months, I am convinced that it is not needed. Assume that a university or other organization wishes to use a "none" policy to permit mailing

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Data Query: Non-existent subdomains

2022-03-15 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Tuesday, March 15, 2022 8:10:23 AM EDT Alessandro Vesely wrote: > On Tue 15/Mar/2022 02:54:21 +0100 Douglas Foster wrote: > > For subdomains of registered organizations, SP=reject protects both > > existent and non-existent domains. This means that a NP policy would > > only be relevant when

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Data Query: Non-existent subdomains

2022-03-15 Thread Todd Herr
On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 9:54 PM Douglas Foster < dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote: > I asked this question because I have concluded that NP is only meaningful > for registrar policy records, to identify unregistered organizations. > > For subdomains of registered organizations,

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Data Query: Non-existent subdomains

2022-03-15 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Tue 15/Mar/2022 02:54:21 +0100 Douglas Foster wrote: For subdomains of registered organizations, SP=reject protects both existent and non-existent domains.  This means that a NP policy would only be relevant when sp=none and np=reject. While that's true, someone may want to set, for