> The issue is not about lists being second class. What lists do to a message
> is a privileged function, because
> modifying a message can be done maliciously as easily as it can be done
> innocently. So the real problem
> is that DMARC demoted them from privileged to non-privileged by exposi
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:11 AM Douglas Foster <
dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I did not say "life isn't fair" to be rude, but as a call to acknowledge
> the reality that exists rather than the reality you wish you had.
>
So what I'm hearing, again, is "Lists should get with the t
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 3:40 AM Scott Kitterman
wrote:
> >Google uses 5.7.26 for the purpose (and for SPF and DKIM rejects):
> >
> >https://support.google.com/a/answer/3726730?sjid=16541570162287939258-NA
> >
> >Their use of 5.7.26 seems in keeping with IANA - Multiple authentication
> >checks fa
I did not say "life isn't fair" to be rude, but as a call to acknowledge
the reality that exists rather than the reality you wish you had.
We know that a large portion of email is unsolicited, unwanted, or
malicious. Consequently, there is no right or certainty of delivery. To
get delivery, yo
On Thu 13/Jul/2023 10:20:00 +0200 Murray S. Kucherawy wrote:
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:20 AM Douglas Foster
wrote:
Does anyone believe that things will change if we publish an RFC which
says "Verizon Media MUST change to p=none"? I don't.
It would be absurd to make such a directed statemen
On July 12, 2023 1:11:37 PM UTC, Todd Herr
wrote:
>On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 7:30 AM Scott Kitterman
>wrote:
>
>> On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 7:04:38 AM EDT Alessandro Vesely wrote:
>> > On Wed 12/Jul/2023 12:54:38 +0200 Scott Kitterman wrote:
>> > > On Wednesday, July 12, 2023 3:29:34 AM EDT Ba
On Wed, Jul 12, 2023 at 6:20 AM Douglas Foster <
dougfoster.emailstanda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone believe that things will change if we publish an RFC which
> says "Verizon Media MUST change to p=none"? I don't.
>
It would be absurd to make such a directed statement. I trust you're
sim
