Re: [dmarc-ietf] Should 'undeliverable mail' be included in DMARC rua reports?

2019-08-18 Thread Freddie Leeman
>> -Element's minOccurs stays 1 and ‘null reverse-path’ messages get an >> empty 'envelope_from' value > This option is easy to grasp, as it parallels SMTP's mail from:<> After some thought I think this would be the best solution. Not omitting the element, keeping the MinOccurs '1', but all

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Should 'undeliverable mail' be included in DMARC rua reports?

2019-08-08 Thread Alessandro Vesely
On Thu 08/Aug/2019 14:52:58 +0200 Freddie Leeman wrote: > So how should 'null reverse-path'-messages be processed (in the future)? I > see three options: > > - Element's minOccurs gets changed to 0 and ‘null reverse-path’ messages > are added without the 'envelope_from' element > - Ele

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Should 'undeliverable mail' be included in DMARC rua reports?

2019-08-08 Thread Freddie Leeman
So how should 'null reverse-path'-messages be processed (in the future)? I see three options: - Element's minOccurs gets changed to 0 and ‘null reverse-path’ messages are added without the 'envelope_from' element - Element's minOccurs stays 1 and ‘null reverse-path’ messages get an

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Should 'undeliverable mail' be included in DMARC rua reports?

2019-08-06 Thread Freddie Leeman
die Leeman -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: John Levine [mailto:jo...@taugh.com] Verzonden: dinsdag 6 augustus 2019 22:24 Aan: dmarc@ietf.org CC: fred...@leemankuiper.nl Onderwerp: Re: [dmarc-ietf] Should 'undeliverable mail' be included in DMARC rua reports? In article <009c01d

Re: [dmarc-ietf] Should 'undeliverable mail' be included in DMARC rua reports?

2019-08-06 Thread John Levine
In article <009c01d54c69$39745520$ac5cff60$@leemankuiper.nl> you write: >I've noticed that, even though RFC7489 appendix C states that the >'envelope_from' element has a minOccurs of '1', this element is missing >quite frequently. It's not missing, it's empty. That's not the same thing. R's, Jo

[dmarc-ietf] Should 'undeliverable mail' be included in DMARC rua reports?

2019-08-06 Thread Freddie Leeman
I've noticed that, even though RFC7489 appendix C states that the 'envelope_from' element has a minOccurs of '1', this element is missing quite frequently. This is probably due to the fact that some messages have a 'null reverse-path'. The RFC5321 (Simple Mail Transfer Protocol) chapter 4.5.5 allow