If I was able to understand correctly, vdev works with dbus.
Vdev does not use dbus. No idea how or why you came to this conclusion.
Search the code if you don't believe me.
-Jude
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On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:50:44AM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
If I was able to understand correctly, vdev works with dbus.
Vdev does not use dbus. No idea how or why you came to this conclusion.
Search the code if you don't believe me.
-Jude
I believe you. You never appeared
Hi,
Oz Tiram wrote on 22/07/2015 at 10:00 CEST:
One argument I hear often about systemd is that it more adapted to
current hardware needs, [e.g. here][1]
Computers changed so much that they often doesn’t even look
like computers. And their operating systems are very busy :
GPS, wireless
No, I have made the distupgrade release by release
and checked, whether anything was working.
And yes, from Etch to Lenny, Squeeze and Wheeze it was working.
And then the nightmare came over me!
Currently I install a Wheeze Workstation + Server around 3 GByte
of installation will back it up and
From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Konzack
Sent: Wednesday, July 22, 2015 3:17 PM
Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer
No, I have made the distupgrade release by release
and checked, whether anything was working.
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 16:57:55 +0200
Laurent Bercot ska-de...@skarnet.org wrote:
On 22/07/2015 16:24, Isaac Dunham wrote:
In general, I'd agree with you, but there are some situations where
it's possible to argue for hotplugger/service manager integration:
if you hotplug a scanner or
You're forgetting SQL injection and XSS, to name a few. Wireshark in a
cybercafé pops into mind too plus a gazillion of windows
vulnerabilities.
I'm placing no bets on Whether-or-not-it-was-systemd and find that
discussion moot unless there's any solid details on the hack.
Does Devuan keep up to
From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Michelle Konzack
Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:55 PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [DNG] Interesting comment from a kernel developer
Hello *,
2015-07-22 3:07 GMT+02:00 Go Linux goli...@yahoo.com:
What is this about 'baroque init
Am Mittwoch, 22. Juli 2015 schrieb Steve Litt:
Pre-cisely! I don't have Lennart Poettering's coding skills or system
wisdom, nor do I have the budget by which his team operates, but even I
was able to put together the most challenging part of hotplugging,
using inotifywait:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:03:03 +0200
miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:50:44AM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
If I was able to understand correctly, vdev works with dbus.
Vdev does not use dbus. No idea how or why you came to this
conclusion. Search the
On 22/07/2015 22:20, T.J. Duchene wrote:
That said, the reality of the situation is quite different than it is
in theory. As the old saying goes in the American Midwest: The
proof is in the pudding. Until someone provides a systemd
alternative that works better than systemd, yet provides
In general, I'd agree with you, but there are some situations where it's
possible to argue for hotplugger/service manager integration:
if you hotplug a scanner or printer, there's reason to think that the
corresponding daemon (sane/cups/lprng/lpr) should start.
Note that I did not say that I
Hi!
Okay, I tried to do this off list, but I now found the second occurence of
this already:
Please do not about every hacked web site you read about. Especially not a
link to it. I bet there are tons of web sites hacked each day even if you
don´t hear about every single one. And whether this
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 01:01:17 -0700
James Powell james4...@hotmail.com wrote:
It is to some extent, but remember, we now, on selected systems, have a
universal interface layer, so we don't know if it was Brute Force SSH, or
something else.
Until the hackers say or reveal anything, we don't
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 10:00:48AM +0200, Oz Tiram wrote:
One argument I hear often about systemd is that it more adapted to current
hardware needs, [e.g. here][1]
Computers changed so much that they often doesn’t even look like
computers. And their operating systems are very busy : GPS,
On 22/07/2015 10:00, Oz Tiram wrote:
One argument I hear often about systemd is that it more adapted to current
hardware needs, [e.g. here][1]
Computers changed so much that they often doesn’t even look like
computers. And their operating systems are very busy : GPS, wireless
networks,
dear Martin,
DNG is an open and public discussion place, not strictly bound to Devuan
nor to Systemd: its the campfire after the exodus from Debian and it
gathers people with different focus and interests.
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
You basically give them public
re all,
we have setup a new alias for the official devuan.org domain name, to
make it easier for english speakers when they want to communicate this
project: dev-one.org
our project's official name and branding stays as Devuan (which is now
also a registered trademark, just to make sure it is
One argument I hear often about systemd is that it more adapted to current
hardware needs, [e.g. here][1]
Computers changed so much that they often doesn’t even look like
computers. And their operating systems are very busy : GPS, wireless
networks, USB peripherals that come and go, tons of
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 02:51:59PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 20:03:03 +0200
miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr wrote:
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 11:50:44AM -0400, Jude Nelson wrote:
If I was able to understand correctly, vdev works with dbus.
Vdev does not
They are achieving it via an on-line firmware update and downloading a
completely new firmware to the entertainment unit. OS is irrelevant.
[T.J. Duchene]
I mean no offense, but that statement should really be qualified. Actually the
OS is not irrelevant, depending on the configuration of
There is ConsoleKit2...
From: Vladmailto:2389...@gmail.com
Sent: 7/22/2015 5:49 PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.orgmailto:dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: [DNG] Multi-seat on Devuan, do we actually need that useless curiosity?
I think that the pretty useless feature which
On Thu, Jul 23, 2015 at 03:49:32AM +0300, Vlad wrote:
I think that the pretty useless feature which helped systemd into Debian in
the first place was discussed some time ago.
As you might know multi seat is supposed to make possible for multiple users
to utilize a single desktop or laptop
First off cool your jets, and trying call me out on knowing the internals of an
IPC in Userspace I didn't develop is very childish.
I honestly don't care if D-Bus what it does other than be a communication and
messaging relay between applications and processes, as long as it does what it
does,
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 03:28:28PM -0700, James Powell wrote:
D-Bus isn't great, but currently it is still a cross-UNIX IPC in
userspace. BSD uses it, Illumos uses it, and so does GNU/Linux.
Since you would still like it around, in opportunistic or in some other
way that I should call it, I
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 03:03:55PM -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote:
Yes, Debian has adopted systemd. As a quick fix, you can stick with
Wheezy; or you can install Jessie and then install systemd-shim and
sysvinit. After you install systemd-shim and sysvinit, Jessie should work
more or less as
D-Bus isn't great, but currently it is still a cross-UNIX IPC in userspace. BSD
uses it, Illumos uses it, and so does GNU/Linux.
D-Bus is way down my list of software to steer clear of any more.
From:
The problem with some of these known attacks are the effectiveness of each.
Example:
Last night I was thinking about how it could have happened, but actually during
a system evaluation I did in my head, I actually hit a large wall.
Shadow can use cryptographic algorithms of at least 512-bit
I think that the pretty useless feature which helped systemd into Debian in the
first place was discussed some time ago.
As you might know multi seat is supposed to make possible for multiple users
to utilize a single desktop or laptop system in full blown GUI mode via special
USB hubs, the
On 22/07/2015 16:24, Isaac Dunham wrote:
In general, I'd agree with you, but there are some situations where it's
possible to argue for hotplugger/service manager integration:
if you hotplug a scanner or printer, there's reason to think that the
corresponding daemon (sane/cups/lprng/lpr)
Hi, Devuaners!
I wrote to this list before, a couple of times. As
miro.ro...@croatiafidelis.hr and miroslav.rov...@zg.ht.hr.
I'll start from here:
How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20t=116770start=45#p552566
(
the encrypted channel not set up
On Wed, Jul 22, 2015 at 12:59:56PM +0200, Laurent Bercot wrote:
On 22/07/2015 10:00, Oz Tiram wrote:
One argument I hear often about systemd is that it more adapted to current
hardware needs, [e.g. here][1]
Computers changed so much that they often doesn’t even look like
computers.
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