https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/devuan-talk-version
Basically the replacement version that fixes some issues from the original.
Thoughts?
Also should mention the original version should be changed to remove the part
about adding the user to the disk group, as it s
On Wed, 13 Jan 2016 18:51:20 +0100
Didier Kryn wrote:
> Sure it's not new, but for Broadcom. But why the hell do we
> still have the only alternative of either run the X server with root
> priviledge or to run it under Systemd?
Just FYI:
There is a package called "xserver-xorg-legacy" that pe
richard lucassen writes:
> Didier Kryn wrote:
>
>
>> Sure it's not new, but for Broadcom. But why the hell do we
>> still have the only alternative of either run the X server with root
>> priviledge or to run it under Systemd?
>
> Just FYI:
>
> There is a package called "xserver-xorg-legacy" tha
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:31:17 -, dev1fanboy wrote in message
:
> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/devuan-talk-version
>
> Basically the replacement version that fixes some issues from the
> original. Thoughts?
..me, I'd say: root@devuan:~# mkdir -vp /media/{usb0
Nice, was going to go with -p but forgot to add it in. -v might help people
understand what went on with the curly braces too, so I'll add that.
On Thursday, January 14, 2016 11:38 AM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:31:17 -, dev1fanboy wrote in message
> :
>
>> https://git.dev
Rainer Weikusat writes:
[...]
> is the fact that "X runs as root" in itself problematic? The
> answer to that is "it isn't".
[...]
> There's obviously a double-standard applied here
Addition: It's probably or potentially possible to make a sensible
argument for "not running X as root", but th
Edward Bartolo writes:
[Running X as root]
> Eh, root is dangerous... Users should never ever use root: there are
> other safer alternatives to that, like many modern Operating Systems
> ,like for example, Windows, Android, OSX. They all think for
> themselves,
[...]
While I understand the poi
...because of BlueZ 5 and Xfce.
Looks like those xfce4-volumed and xfce4-mixer are dropped *in favour*
of PulseAudio (as they say because of gstreamer).
Developers of BlueZ simply stopped supporting ALSA.
In other news, current branch has got 4.4 kernel, which, by the way, came
up only four days
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 10:39:22AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
>
> Fortunately, systemd is not mentioned there, thus its appearance
> in 14.2 is unlikely, I reckon. And, fortunately, the way they manage
> packages can't imply pushing people towards using systemd
> or it's libraries.
>
> The whole ch
Tomasz Torcz wrote:
>Slackware switched to eudev in order to avoid systemd.
Shame on me not reading the whole thing. Still, systemd is not mentioned (:
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Word from Eric Hameleers, one of the main Slackware maintainers (AKA
alienbob):
"...you have to have PA installed because applications are now linking
> against it. What you can still do is configure PA to be an input channel
> for ALSA and leave ALSA to control your hardware.
> But generally spea
Emiliano Marini wrote:
>Word from Eric Hameleers, one of the main Slackware maintainers (AKA alienbob):
>>"...you have to have PA installed because applications are now linking
>>against it.
>>What you can still do is configure PA to be an input channel for ALSA and
>>leave ALSA to control your
Emiliano Marini writes:
> Word from Eric Hameleers, one of the main Slackware maintainers (AKA
> alienbob):
>
> "...you have to have PA installed because applications are now linking
>> against it. What you can still do is configure PA to be an input channel
>> for ALSA and leave ALSA to control y
I wrote:
>by happy chance we do have OSS option, which is simpler and portable
>and simply works.
Also, if you go with OSS, you need neither xfce4-volumed, nor
xfce4-mixer, because:
- OSS has its own mixer;
- volume keys can be configured to be used with it.
Frankly, I don't understand, why Open
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:52:31AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
> Frankly, I don't understand, why Open Sound System
> option is marked DEPRECATED in menuconfig.
Have you looked what hardware does it support?
# --- OSS sound modules
# [ ] Verbose initialisation
# [ ] Persistent DMA buffers
# < >
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:25:25 +0100
Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Eh, root is dangerous... Users should never ever use root: there are
> other safer alternatives to that, like many modern Operating Systems
> ,like for example, Windows, Android, OSX. They all think for
> themselves, updating the
Adam Borowski wrote:
>I see not a single piece of hardware from this millenium.
>Thus, OSS is not just obsolete, it's historic.
According to the list, it can't work on my machine, which is
made in this century (2013 to be exact).
Please take a look at this article (last edited in 2011):
https://
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:31:17 -
"dev1fanboy" wrote:
> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-Devuan/wikis/devuan-talk-version
>
> Basically the replacement version that fixes some issues from the
> original. Thoughts?
I've been a professional technical writer since 1985, and this
On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:52:31 -0500
Mitt Green wrote:
> Also, if you go with OSS, you need neither xfce4-volumed, nor
> xfce4-mixer, because:
> - OSS has its own mixer;
> - volume keys can be configured to be used with it.
>
> Frankly, I don't understand, why Open Sound System
> option is marked
Good evening,
2016-01-14 18:06 GMT+01:00, Adam Borowski :
> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 11:52:31AM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
>> Frankly, I don't understand, why Open Sound System
>> option is marked DEPRECATED in menuconfig.
>
> Have you looked what hardware does it support?
[snip]
The big
«IN PARTICU
On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 12:33:39PM -0500, Mitt Green wrote:
> Adam Borowski wrote:
>
> >I see not a single piece of hardware from this millenium.
> >Thus, OSS is not just obsolete, it's historic.
>
> According to the list, it can't work on my machine, which is
> made in this century (2013 to be e
Just for the record...
I did a standard system install of wheezy on encrypted lvm, then added
xorg and xfce4 (full metapackages) and not much else.
Changed sources to devuan jessie and added the avoid-systemd pin, ran
'apt-get update' and added the devuan keyring, then ran 'apt-get
dist-upgrade'
The man (the myth, the legend; Scott Sterling
is in my heart forever, but return to our muttons)
himself criticised OSS once:
http://linuxfr.org/nodes/86687/comments/1249943___
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On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 11:09:19 +
Rainer Weikusat wrote:
> > Just FYI:
> >
> > There is a package called "xserver-xorg-legacy" that permits normal
> > users to start X
>
> As far as I remember, by running it with superuser privileges as the
> binary is not setuid-0 anymore, IOW, that's not exac
Thanks for the kind words, I never really thought about it like that. I'll have
to make a habit of writing in this way.
On Thursday, January 14, 2016 5:44 PM, Steve Litt
wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jan 2016 08:31:17 -
> "dev1fanboy" wrote:
>
>> https://git.devuan.org/dev1fanboy/Upgrade-Install-D
On 13/01/16 10:58, Florian Zieboll wrote:
On Tue, 12 Jan 2016 21:34:20 -
"dev1fanboy" wrote:
hey Florian,
I do try to include the inexperienced, hopefully that's not too
boring for everyone else.
I think I should probably change startx to startxfce4 this time,
because it has it's own ses
Thanks for offering to translate into german,
Initially I asked for translations in the early stage because it was better
than nothing for now, and hopefully people who don't speak english well enough
can benefit in the here and now. I will post back when everything is looking
right, there a fe
Thanks :) good to know I'm not off the mark by being expansive.
It's interesting to know that raspberry pi is taking off because of that,
building instructions for the bbb is on my list of stuff to do.
On Friday, January 15, 2016 2:09 AM, Simon Wise wrote:
> On 13/01/16 10:58, Florian Zieboll
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