Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

KatolaZ wrote: > I am working instead to include a runlevel with support for espeakout > and brltty, which will require just a few megabytes and will be far > more useful than zenity. Glad to hear of this. I consider that support for the blind linux user community should be a high priority. >

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Mon, 16 May 2016 08:26:11 -0500 dev wrote: > On 05/16/2016 05:12 AM, Jaromil wrote: > > To all those who think this and other similar approaches may > > invalidate the need of our fork: please consider we are not just > > forking Debian because of systemd, but because the

[DNG] Fwd: JWM Package worth the effort? was About subject lines

+1 JWM ;) On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 11:15 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:31:11 +0200 > wrote: > > > > PS. You didn't answer if it would be a reasonable effort to create a > > JWM based desktop as an option for devuan ... :) > > I

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Mon, 16 May 2016 12:12:20 +0200 Jaromil wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > > > As for the rest, i'd be interested in what you think about the > > content of that discussion. > > I think it minimizes the problem systemd brings to Debian and the >

[DNG] JWM Package worth the effort? was About subject lines

On Mon, 16 May 2016 11:31:11 +0200 wrote: > PS. You didn't answer if it would be a reasonable effort to create a > JWM based desktop as an option for devuan ... :) I don't have an opinion on that. If I really loved JWM to death, I might make such a package. Or I might just

Re: [DNG] Devuan on RPi2

On 16-05-16 15:59, parazyd wrote: On Mon, 16 May 2016, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio on a RPi2 and have 3 remarks. - had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually - had to add alsa manually - icecast2 asks for

Re: [DNG] Devuan on RPi2

On Mon, 16 May 2016, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio on a > RPi2 and have 3 remarks. > > - had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually > - had to add alsa manually > - icecast2 asks for configuration parameters but

Re: [DNG] Devuan on RPi2

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 03:33:18PM +0200, info at smallinnovations.nl wrote: > I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio > on a RPi2 and have 3 remarks. > > - had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually > - had to add alsa manually > - icecast2 asks for

[DNG] Devuan on RPi2

I spended today some time to setup a Devuan version from my webradio on a RPi2 and have 3 remarks. - had to add module snd_bcm2835 manually - had to add alsa manually - icecast2 asks for configuration parameters but does not save them (is most likely not Devuan related but ask here

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On 05/16/2016 05:12 AM, Jaromil wrote: To all those who think this and other similar approaches may invalidate the need of our fork: please consider we are not just forking Debian because of systemd, but because the people who have taken over the leadership of that distro have betrayed its

[DNG] apt pinning vs. Default-Release (was: Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 83)

On Sun, 15 May 2016 22:54:33 -0400 ". fsmithred" wrote: > Florian, > > Thanks! I tried pinning backports like that a few weeks ago, and it > didn't work. I thought it was due to changes in the way pinning is > done. I don't think I ever would have figured that one out on my

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

I get the reluctance to mix dists. It's also not good to patch sytem components without good reason (there was in that case) However, live-* has always been a special case, designed to be back-compatible and not have other "unstable deps". They even said they won't support anyone using older

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 01:15:40PM +0100, David Hare wrote: > KatolaZ, FYI, I noticed your iso has empty /dev and a patched > /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init (and uses an older > refracta-snapshot).. > > That patch was a workaround in refracta-snapshot for bug(s) which only > last week got

Re: [DNG] Unofficial Devuan Jessie Beta Live Minimal

KatolaZ, FYI, I noticed your iso has empty /dev and a patched /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init (and uses an older refracta-snapshot).. That patch was a workaround in refracta-snapshot for bug(s) which only last week got officially noted. The original file is still there but renamed (this only

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

Hi, I think, it is not about the term "linuxmafia" offending our feelings but rather the bad connotations it brings with Linux. Linux is exactly the opposite of oppression and abuse: Linux is about freedom. Edward On 16/05/2016, Jaromil wrote: > On Sun, 15 May 2016, Steve

Re: [DNG] About subject lines

Am Mon, 16 May 2016 10:54:45 + schrieb Didier Kryn : > Cheers emniner, > > My exasperation isn't that much against the authors of emails > with bad subject, but rather against the junk software which produces > that (I'm curious about by which mechanism). Moderating

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Sun, 15 May 2016, Steve Litt wrote: > Rick has held the linuxmafia.com domain since at least 1999: thanks for the explanation Steve. I'm airing a personal irritation which is almost two decades old, as I used linuxmafia.org back when I was using Slackware and Debian didn't even existed. I'm

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

Hi, Jaromil wrote: << some of us are from places in which that word means prevarication, violence, misery and corruption. I've never been entertained by such a name, not even when it was about slackware packages. very bad taste. >> +Infinity Edward On 16/05/2016, Jaromil

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Mon, 16 May 2016, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > As for the rest, i'd be interested in what you think about the > content of that discussion. I think it minimizes the problem systemd brings to Debian and the problem the current Debian leadership has with its own constituency. I sincerely wish

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 11:39:38AM +0200, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: > As for me, i understand those who are hurted by the use of the term > mafia (one half of my family is from "there" ;) ), but i also > understand the may be improper but innocent use of that term in > a different social and

Re: [DNG] About subject lines

Le 16/05/2016 11:31, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit : Am Sun, 15 May 2016 21:45:10 + schrieb Steve Litt : You're absolutely right. It was just one or two mails that "escaped" before i had checked, if all was correct. I wouldn't disagree, to moderate them out. My

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

As for me, i understand those who are hurted by the use of the term mafia (one half of my family is from "there" ;) ), but i also understand the may be improper but innocent use of that term in a different social and cultural context. May be it's a good way to try to understand the reasons of

[DNG] About subject lines

Am Sun, 15 May 2016 21:45:10 + schrieb Steve Litt : [ . . . ] > Hi emninger, > > Could you please alter email subjects to reflect what you're actually > replying to? It helps those of us receiving the message to track > threads (client threading doesn't always

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Mon, May 16, 2016 at 08:03:58AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 08:38:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Mon, 16 May 2016 01:18:34 +0200 > > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200 > > > Jaromil wrote: > > > >

Re: [DNG] Brief OpenRC/Jessie Discussion on the linux-elitists lists

On Sun, May 15, 2016 at 08:38:26PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 16 May 2016 01:18:34 +0200 > Florian Zieboll wrote: > > > On Sun, 15 May 2016 23:22:07 +0200 > > Jaromil wrote: > > > > > prevarication, violence, misery and corruption > > > >

Re: [DNG] Dng Digest, Vol 20, Issue 78

Le 15/05/2016 21:15, Steve Litt a écrit : On Sat, 14 May 2016 23:00:36 +0200 wrote: Am Sat, 14 May 2016 17:07:06 + schrieb Didier Kryn : Hi emninger, Could you please alter email subjects to reflect what you're actually replying to? It helps those of