Re: [DNG] Evince

Adam Borowski escribió: [...] Evince is evil and insane. #721783 is one of many regressions. You want atril for a fork of evince from before its upstream went completely bonkers. It's still gnomey but to a far more acceptable degree. I installed okular (and its

Re: [DNG] OpenRC

On 05/26/2016 01:23 AM, Steve Litt wrote: capability of respawning daemons that crash? OpenRC can't do that. OpenRC *can* do that: --- Automatic respawning crashed services --- https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/OpenRC ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] OpenRC

On Tue, 24 May 2016 14:06:33 +0200 wrote: > Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc > together with sysvinit? > > I'd like to use openrc as a tool to administrate daemons and services > since i find it a lot more "logical" (easy?). Before you do

Re: [DNG] Pulseaudio ...

Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2016 11:40:27 -0400, Steve wrote in message > <20160525114027.64eb3...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > On Wed, 25 May 2016 07:56:57 +0200 > > wrote: > > > > > Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it > > > shouldn't

Re: [DNG] Pulseaudio ...

On Wed, 25 May 2016 11:40:27 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20160525114027.64eb3...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > On Wed, 25 May 2016 07:56:57 +0200 > wrote: > > > Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it > > shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On 05/25/2016 08:49 AM, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > > Can you suggest a lazier solution (like pre-compiled packages)? > > Thank you! > > Antonio > Lazier: apt-get -t jessie-backports install linux-image-4.5.0... -fsr ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] OpenRC

On 05/24/2016 02:06 PM, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: Is there a link to an instruction how to use (and setup) openrc together with sysvinit? I'd like to use openrc as a tool to administrate daemons and services since i find it a lot more "logical" (easy?). TRIOS Mia is fully functional Debian

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 04:19:23PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > The kernel doesn't make any call to the glibc; it is the > > opposite: when running the new kernel, the userland invokes the > > glibc all the time, and this glibc makes system-calls to the new > > kernel, and there are some changes

Re: [DNG] Logout problem

https://wiki.debian.org/Suspend Debian Wheezy (7) A very notable change is that HAL is phased out. If you still have the hal package installed, you should remove it or it will interference with pm-utils during suspend. If the suspend / resume works well on your system, you are lucky and no need

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel (Antonio Trkdz.tab)

>i've built linux-libre-4.3.5 in 686, 686-pae and amd64 architectures, and shortly i'll share the beta of Gnuinos. Give me one week... Great! Looking forward to it. Antonio On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 5:01 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Antonio, > > El 25/05/16 a las 16:25,

Re: [DNG] Evince

Didier Kryn writes: > Le 24/05/2016 12:50, Jaromil a écrit : > > >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. > > >>> > >>> >No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel (Antonio Trkdz.tab)

Hi Antonio, El 25/05/16 a las 16:25, "Antonio Trkdz.tab" escribió: Another thing I had a small attempt at was to pull the kernel 4.3.05(ish)-libre from gnuinos, but for some reason the repository listed in the web page didn't work in my hands. You are right, both links

Re: [DNG] Pulseaudio ...

On Wed, 25 May 2016 07:56:57 +0200 wrote: > Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it > shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not > installed ... (?) But it's a long time i was away from Debian ... There's no Pulseaudio

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 04:49:12PM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 25/05/2016 16:38, KatolaZ a écrit : > >Having said that, I think you should not have too many problems > >compiling a 4.x kernel with glibc-2.19 (the version you find in > >Jessie) > > The kernel doesn't make any call to the

Re: [DNG] elisp

Rainer Weikusat writes: > Hendrik Boom writes: >> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:40:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > [same as below but worded differently] > >>> >>> ... and what the Lisp 1.5 FUNCTION was about was to enable solving the >>>

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:53:50PM +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > Thank you for the info! > > >It's Devuan, obvoiously. > > Got it! :) > > >I don't know whether you already are aware of it, but the best way to > compile a vanilla kernel on Debian/Devuas is through using > kernel-package,

Re: [DNG] elisp

Hendrik Boom writes: > On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:22:01PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > >> >> The LISP "alist" implementation is, as we noted earlier, an >> example of the "deep access" approach". The "alist" contains >> pointers to previous values of all

[DNG] Logout problem

Thanks to Ozi i got two desktop independent logout/hibernate tools which generally work fine (cb-exit and oblogout). But i have a problem when i try the suspend/restart commands: I get this error msg: --- Error org.freedesktop.UPower.GeneralError: not authorized --- The command in the above

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

Thank you for the info! >It's Devuan, obvoiously. Got it! :) >I don't know whether you already are aware of it, but the best way to compile a vanilla kernel on Debian/Devuas is through using kernel-package, which compiles the kernel and produces a ready-to-install .deb package. Yeah, you

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:25:56 +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > Now that I think of it, I got rid of libsystemd0 by having gvfs and dbus > installed from angband repos, might it be that I need to reinstall some > packages from there, but ascii repo (it will take a bit of system >

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

Le 25/05/2016 16:38, KatolaZ a écrit : Having said that, I think you should not have too many problems compiling a 4.x kernel with glibc-2.19 (the version you find in Jessie) The kernel doesn't make any call to the glibc; it is the opposite: when running the new kernel, the userland

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

Le 25/05/2016 16:25, Antonio Trkdz.tab a écrit : Thank you Didier and Urban. >I think you can compile your kernel with any version of gcc 3, 4 or 5, but take care of the C library. The libc used by your OS (ie glibc) must be compiled with the kernel headers for the kernel version it runs on.

Re: [DNG] elisp

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:22:01PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: > > The LISP "alist" implementation is, as we noted earlier, an > example of the "deep access" approach". The "alist" contains > pointers to previous values of all bound variables together with > the

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:38:11PM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: [cut] > > I don't know whether you already are aware of it, but the best way to > compile a vanilla kernel on Debian/Devuas is through using ^^ It's Devuan, obvoiously. HND KatolaZ -- [ Enzo

[DNG] Pulseaudio ...

Is pulseaudio necessary? As i understand it (and as i remember), it shouldn't be needed (in lubuntu at least in former times) it was not installed ... (?) But it's a long time i was away from Debian ... ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 03:25:56PM +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: [cut] > > In a previous discussion Hendrick Boom suggested it as an easy solution, > but do you recommend having mixed source (ascii/jessie)? I am afraid I > could mess up my system regretfully in the long runeven if only

[DNG] about fglrx (especially to Irrwahn)

Hi. Indeed upgrading my system in some way i lost fglrx, and now, when i try to reinstall it from the repositories i'm getting that there is no fglrx driver. When i reactivate the Jessie repositories, the driver is there but when i try to install it, synaptic or apt-get lament that fglrx depends

Re: [DNG] elisp

Hendrik Boom writes: > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 08:40:37PM +0100, Rainer Weikusat wrote: [same as below but worded differently] >> >> ... and what the Lisp 1.5 FUNCTION was about was to enable solving the >> so-called 'upward funarg problem': Assuming a function is

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

Thank you Didier and Urban. >I think you can compile your kernel with any version of gcc 3, 4 or 5, but take care of the C library. The libc used by your OS (ie glibc) must be compiled with the kernel headers for the kernel version it runs on. So to be clear...if I download the sources and I

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Wed, 25 May 2016, Dima Krasner wrote: >slim is far from perfect, that's true. However, "it works" and >LightDM can use both ConsoleKit and logind in the version >packaged in Jessie, but prefers logind. Other DMs have a hard >dependency on logind, or will in the future. We

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Wed, 25 May 2016 15:11:20 +0200, Jaromil wrote: [...] > I don't exclude adopting the package with Devuan becoming upstream > > but are we 100% sure that there are no other alternatives out there, FWIW, below is the trimmed-down version of a list I shamelessly ripped from:

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Wed, 25 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2016 12:08:12 +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > > On Tue, 24 May 2016 23:07:33 +0200 > > Irrwahn wrote: > > > >> In my humble opinion a quality distribution like Devuan > >> should not show a potential weakness at such a

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

On Wed, 25 May 2016 13:49:23 +0100, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: [...] > I had a look at installing the 4.5 kernel from ascii, but it pulls a lot o > dipendences, including libsystemd0 (again) [...] This is odd. (FWIW, I'm writing from an Ascii installation with the stock 4.5 kernel, and no

Re: [DNG] Install a new kernel

Le 25/05/2016 14:49, Antonio Trkdz.tab a écrit : Can I compile the 4.1 without having to get the gcc4.9 compiler? I think you can compile your kernel with any version of gcc 3, 4 or 5, but take care of the C library. The libc used by your OS (ie glibc) must be compiled with the kernel

[DNG] Install a new kernel

Hi All, I didn't want to resuscitate old discussions, so I am writing a new one. I am actually using Nvidia drivers from jessie-backports, but I would like to try nouveau drivers for my Nvidia card to get rid of some proprietary blobs... With current kernel in stable(3.16), nouveau don't

Re: [DNG] Evince

Hi all, El 25/05/16 a las 10:50, Daniel Reurich escribió: Hi, Sorry for hooking back an earlier part of this thread, but I turned back to xpdf a while back as it was the only pdf viewer that I found produces consistently good and correct rendering results. It can

Re: [DNG] Persistent apt-file error

On Wed, 25 May 2016 12:28:22 +0200, Jaromil wrote: > On Wed, 25 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > >> Hello DNG, >> >> has anybody else experienced problems using the >> apt-file utility recently? > > yes, it is a known bug. > > it is documented in an issue on Amprolla on our gitlab. > > Amprolla is

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Wed, 25 May 2016 12:08:12 +0200, Florian Zieboll wrote: > On Tue, 24 May 2016 23:07:33 +0200 > Irrwahn wrote: > >> In my humble opinion a quality distribution like Devuan >> should not show a potential weakness at such a crucial >> spot by shipping a package in

Re: [DNG] Persistent apt-file error

On Wed, 25 May 2016, Irrwahn wrote: > Hello DNG, > > has anybody else experienced problems using the > apt-file utility recently? yes, it is a known bug. it is documented in an issue on Amprolla on our gitlab. Amprolla is undergoing a major maintainance and Nextime is busy setting up a new

[DNG] Persistent apt-file error

Hello DNG, has anybody else experienced problems using the apt-file utility recently? Whatever I try, I always get: # apt-file search E: The cache is empty. You need to run "apt update" first. Of course I followed the hint, but to no avail. I tried this as both normal user and as root,

Re: [DNG] Request for Removal of slim package from Devuan

On Tue, 24 May 2016 23:07:33 +0200 Irrwahn wrote: > In my humble opinion a quality distribution like Devuan > should not show a potential weakness at such a crucial > spot by shipping a package in questionable condition. Hallo Irrwahn, in an earlier mail you wrote

Re: [DNG] Configure Xterm

Le 24/05/2016 23:04, emnin...@riseup.net a écrit : I would like to have in the terminal (i use xterm), directories shown not only with a different colour (i managed that) but also with final slash (i liked that in some bsd and in slackware), e.g.: ~/.bogofilter/ ~/.claws-mail/ etc. Someone

Re: [DNG] Making sense of C pointer syntax.

Hi Edward, El 29/03/16 a las 00:58, Edward Bartolo escribió: I found using the return value of a function makes code much more >readable and probably more reliable. Multiple return values can be >encapsulated inside a structure which would be returned by a function. >I used

Re: [DNG] Evince

Le 24/05/2016 12:50, Jaromil a écrit : > >>Emacs is a somewhat old-fashioned/ traditional[*] Lisp implemenation > >[*] It doesn't support lexical scoping. > > > >No idea what that means. I like emacs for text editing and don't use it >for anything else. in brief it means that is impossible to