[DNG] little tool for packaging

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Hi folks, just in case anybody's looking for a little helper for deb packaging: https://github.com/metux/packaging It's basicly a pbuilder frontend, which clones git repos and runs pbuilder (targetting various deb distros) onto it. * never touches the git repo itself (except initial clone

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Sat, 02 Jul 2016 01:15:42 +0200 Svante Signell wrote: > On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 11:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 04:04:35 +0200 > >  > > I thought the list had declared Palemoon a reasonable substitute for > > Firefox and Chromium. I've been using

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 13:58:08 -1000 Joel Roth wrote: > I recently tried palemoon, found that like Firefox, it soon > enters a high-CPU-consuming state, at least under my normal > browsing habits. But, with Palemoon, I've found that if you close all the offending tabs, it soon

Re: [DNG] polkit - which one?

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 18.06.2016 10:12, Didier Kryn wrote: > I'm using xfce4 DE on Devuan Jessie and have removed all policy-kit* > packages and package-kit. The halt and reboot buttons of the logout menu > of Xfce do not work anymore. They certainly invoke some command to ask > permission to policy-kit which

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread dev1fanboy
No, but you can install it from their builds. Packaging probably means a rebrand and removal of their artwork from the sources. Cheers, chillfan On Saturday, July 2, 2016 12:15 AM, Svante Signell wrote: > On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 11:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: >> On

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread dev1fanboy
Don't get me wrong, I'm not advocating keeping iceweasel around or that devuan takes on extra work to solve the problem. It's just worth knowing that XUL will eventually be dropped so we can't expect it for much longer in devuan. Cheers, chillfan On Friday, July 1, 2016 3:04 AM, Adam

Re: [DNG] policykit - another time ...

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 02.07.2016 03:21, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult wrote: > Or, for the few applications we really need, just implement it > correctly. Just found out that on my Ubuntu Trusty system, after killing network-manager, I dont have any (installed) dependency to polkit left (just a few things need

Re: [DNG] policykit - another time ...

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 01.07.2016 17:30, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 01/07/2016 16:59, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : >> what I never really actually understood: what do we really need it >> for ? what's the real-world problem behind to be solved ? > > The real problem behind was to replace sudo by

[DNG] OT: tiny widget toolkit [Was: Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3]

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
apropos widget toolkits: I'm currently hacking my own tiny widget toolkit, primarily targetted for embedded systems (for now only DRM-FB, X and Wayland coming later). Why yet another one ? Well, none of the existing ones are really satisfying me, and primarily just for fun.

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread Joel Roth
Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 01/07/2016 03:32, dev1fanboy a écrit : > >Just want to point out Firefox ESR has now made it's way into Jessie, along > >with many bloaty features like pocket and eventually no XUL. > > > > It's also in wheezy. On some host I've locked version of Iceweasel to >

Re: [DNG] policykit - another time ...

2016-07-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 17:30:30 +0200, Didier wrote in message <57768c96.8070...@in2p3.fr>: > Le 01/07/2016 16:59, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : > > what I never really actually understood: what do we really need it > > for ? what's the real-world problem behind to be solved ? > >

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread Svante Signell
On Fri, 2016-07-01 at 11:23 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 04:04:35 +0200 >  > I thought the list had declared Palemoon a reasonable substitute for > Firefox and Chromium. I've been using it ever since you guys started > talking about it, and I'm quite pleased. Is it packaged for

Re: [DNG] Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3

2016-07-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 06:22:02PM +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > Hendrik Boom writes: > >One thing I'm wondering about with GTK3 -- does GTK3 have the annoying > >16-bit limitation on pixel counts? That has bitten me with GTK2. It > >severely limits one's scrolling range. > > JFYI, it's not

Re: [DNG] vdev packaging effort ( was: state of what's working, for modern desktop usage)

2016-07-01 Thread aitor_czr
Hi all, On 02/10/2016 03:00 PM, aitor_czr wrote: El 10/02/16 a las 13:00, shraptor escribió: I think Aitor wrote a while ago about creating a vdev package? Aitor could you give an update on that effort? best regards Scooby Hups! :) I just uploaded the most recent

Re: [DNG] Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3

2016-07-01 Thread aitor_czr
On 07/01/2016 02:00 PM, wrote: (Just a hint: i found out that vertex (it is on github) is one of the few themes working decently with gtk3). Good discovery, i'll customize it :) Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list

Re: [DNG] Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3

2016-07-01 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
Hendrik Boom writes: One thing I'm wondering about with GTK3 -- does GTK3 have the annoying 16-bit limitation on pixel counts? That has bitten me with GTK2. It severely limits one's scrolling range. JFYI, it's not actually severe. Looks that way until you've crossed it, that's all.

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-07-01 Thread karl
Enrico Weigelt: > On 01.07.2016 12:13, Adam Borowski wrote: ... > > There's a bug in evdev: normally, when a process listens to cooked events > > (keyboard, etc), they get delivered only when the right VT is active. Not > > so much with raw events: once a process gets hold of such a device, it

Re: [DNG] Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3

2016-07-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 11:29:09AM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 06:18:28AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > > I'd say GTK3 doesn't "have regressions", but "it's one big regression". > > Just to name a few: CSD, font selection dialog, file open/save dialog, etc. > > > >

Re: [DNG] policykit - another time ...

2016-07-01 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 01/07/2016 16:59, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult a écrit : what I never really actually understood: what do we really need it for ? what's the real-world problem behind to be solved ? The real problem behind was to replace sudo by something more complicated, for the sake of

Re: [DNG] Building w/ gtk2 vs gtk3

2016-07-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 06:18:28AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 04:40:30AM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult > wrote: > > I'm currently packaging recent geeqie for Ubuntu Trustry > > (which I'm still running on my notebook), and that leads me > > to an interesting

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 12:17:34PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 09:55:35PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > > dev1fanboy wrote: > > > Just want to point out Firefox ESR has now made it's way into Jessie, > > > along with many bloaty features like pocket and eventually no XUL. >

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 1 Jul 2016 04:04:35 +0200 Adam Borowski wrote: > On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 02:32:46AM +0100, dev1fanboy wrote: > > Just want to point out Firefox ESR has now made it's way into > > Jessie, along with many bloaty features like pocket and eventually > > no XUL. > >

[DNG] DRM vs *BSD

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
Hi folks, does anyone know how *BSD handles the graphics stuff ? Do they have something like DRM/KMS ? --mtx -- mit freundlichen Grüßen -- Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consulting +49-151-27565287 ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] policykit - another time ...

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 01.07.2016 03:09, emnin...@riseup.net wrote: what I never really actually understood: what do we really need it for ? what's the real-world problem behind to be solved ? --mtx ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-07-01 Thread Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult
On 01.07.2016 12:13, Adam Borowski wrote: > Turns out this remark was important: some more clue here would be nice. > Tobias Hunger just shown me a nasty issue (he's banned from dng). Why is he banned ? > There's a bug in evdev: normally, when a process listens to cooked events > (keyboard,

Re: [DNG] Firefox-ESR and XUL

2016-07-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 09:55:35PM -1000, Joel Roth wrote: > dev1fanboy wrote: > > Just want to point out Firefox ESR has now made it's way into Jessie, along > > with many bloaty features like pocket and eventually no XUL. > > Hmm, I just upgraded by reflex. I thought always you need the latest

Re: [DNG] xserver-xorg-core in Debian unstable now requires libsystemd0

2016-07-01 Thread Adam Borowski
On Fri, Jul 01, 2016 at 06:00:03AM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 09:09:17PM +0200, Enrico Weigelt, metux IT consult > wrote: > > Does anyone know what these pieces of code *actually* do ? > > As no one more knowledgeable responded, here's my understanding: Turns out this

Re: [DNG] samba-libs package in Debian now depends on libsystemd0

2016-07-01 Thread Rowland Penny
On 30/06/16 22:58, Daniel Reurich wrote: Hi Enrico, Do you think it's neccesary to remove all trace from the source, or is it sufficient to just change the build flags to so it builds without systemd? No, it isn't neccesary. Did you find systemd hangovers that aren't properly handled by