Re: [DNG] GRUB shell (was: vdev)

> On August 14, 2016 at 7:12 AM fsmithred wrote: > > On 08/14/2016 05:50 AM, Peter Olson wrote: > >> On August 14, 2016 at 5:31 AM Arnt Karlsen wrote: > > > > [...] > > > >> ..one neat thing about grub, is its shell, once you get the menu, > >> hit "e"

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

On 16/08/16 21:54, Rainer Weikusat wrote: Apart from that, current LILO versions already do seem to support this and even if they didn't, adding a "Try 0x81. In case it doesn't exist, try 0x80" option to the code wouldn't be terribly complicated. Just requires "another learning curve" ... I

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 08/16/2016 07:54 PM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > fsmithred wrote on 17/08/16 09:34: >> On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: >>> On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: >> I got the scanner working. >> >> If I boot with udev, the scanner works,

[DNG] I've begun UMENU version2

Hi all, Today I begun UMENU, version 2, based on the feedback I got from all of you. Menu structure contained in a directory hierarchy with files serving as key->value pairs. I have the Config class up and running and have started the Menu class, which is the tough one. I also need to make an

Re: [DNG] systemd greybeards

On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 07:03:57PM -0400, Dan Purgert wrote: - wait, windows is stable enough to run a server on? :) I never said it was stable, but people think otherwise. It's kind of like US politics: The only people who care enough to go far are the ones you don't want. Lying, corrupt

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

fsmithred wrote on 17/08/16 09:34: On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: > On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: >> On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 03:10:37PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > > > Just to be clear, that's the point of open source *as* *originally* > > *envisaged*. Unfortunately, I believe there has been a campaign to > > devalue the meaning of open source to

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Just to be clear, that's the point of open source *as* *originally* > *envisaged*. Unfortunately, I believe there has been a campaign to > devalue the meaning of open source to mean any software fro which the > user gets the source code,

Re: [DNG] live-build Contents-(arch).gz - request

Hi Ozi, On 08/16/2016 11:46 PM, Ozi Traveller wrote: Hi Aitor Would it be possible to devuan to continue to produce the Contents files that live-build uses, until the Devuan-SDK is completed? Thanks Ozi Of course, it's possible to produce them. I explained the way in the mailing list.

[DNG] live-build Contents-(arch).gz - request

Hi Aitor Would it be possible to devuan to continue to produce the Contents files that live-build uses, until the Devuan-SDK is completed? Thanks Ozi ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 02:12:06PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: > > However, even an open source codebase over which a single, evil-leaning > commercial entity owns sole copyright can be forked at any time. By > anyone. All you need is code access and an appropriate licence. > > That's the whole

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:05:12PM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Rick Moen: > > Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > > > It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where > > > the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. > > > I use Lilo on two GPT formatted

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > So given the hypothetical case where Exampleco "takes over"* a project > with the sole desire of burying it, the worst (effectively) that any > of the copyright holders in that code could do is have a court order > that Exampleco cease distribution

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 08/16/2016 08:24 PM, fsmithred wrote: On 08/16/2016 12:29 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > >I can't boot the system with vdev: > > > Booting the kernel. > > [ . ] Failed to execute / init ( error - 13 ) > > can't run '/etc/init.d/rsC' No such file or directory > If you're

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

Rick Moen: > Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > > It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where > > the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. > > I use Lilo on two GPT formatted disks where the partitions are mirrored > > and have no problems with it,

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

- Original Message - From: "fsmithred" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:38 PM Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD On 08/16/2016 12:18 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: - Original Message - From: "Svante Signell"

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 18:29 +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > Hi fsmithred, >  >   > I can't boot the system with vdev: > > >     Booting the kernel. > >     [ .  ]   Failed to execute / init  ( error - 13 ) > >     can't run  '/etc/init.d/rsC'   No such file or directory This is a

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

On 08/16/2016 12:18 PM, Ismael L. Donis Garcia wrote: > - Original Message - > From: "Svante Signell" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:18 AM > Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD > > >> On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 08/16/2016 12:49 PM, shraptor wrote: > On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: >> On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se): > It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where > the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. > > I use Lilo on two GPT formatted disks where the partitions are mirrored > and have no problems with it, remove any disk,

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 08/16/2016 12:29 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > I can't boot the system with vdev: > > > Booting the kernel. > > [ . ] Failed to execute / init ( error - 13 ) > > can't run '/etc/init.d/rsC' No such file or directory > If you're lucky, the fix will be as simple as

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 2016-08-16 18:19, shraptor wrote: On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

- Original Message - From: "Svante Signell" To: Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:18 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD > On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > > >> However, it's somewhat peculiar that the CD (and

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

Hi fsmithred, On 08/16/2016 05:36 PM, fsmithred wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks like this: crw---

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 2016-08-16 18:11, shraptor wrote: I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks like this: crw--- 1 root root 189,

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

I got the scanner working. If I boot with udev, the scanner works, and the permissions on the device look like this: ls -l /dev/bus/usb/002/ crw-rw-r--+ 1 root root 189, 137 Aug 16 10:30 010 and with vdev, it looks like this: crw--- 1 root root 189, 131 Aug 16 10:39 004 I changed the

Re: [DNG] vdev - scanner

On 08/15/2016 01:36 PM, aitor_czr wrote: > > > On 08/15/2016 07:12 PM, fsmithred wrote: >> More testing: >> >> Scanner (ScanMaker 4800) is not found by xsane. If I boot with udev >> instead of vdev, scanner works normally. >> >> I installed live-boot, live-config, live-boot-initramfs-tools, >>

[DNG] The state of Devuan

DistroWatch has seen fit to run an opinion poll[1] on Devuan this week titled "The state of Devuan". I personally don't take much stock in opinion polls as they are generally not very accurate to begin with, but others may. I also think this one is a little early to be asked. I know others were

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

Brad Campbell writes: > On 16/08/16 00:09, Rick Moen wrote: >> Quoting Adam Borowski (kilob...@angband.pl): >> > >> >>> Or, the first disk gets assigned a different position. >> >> Which happens when exactly? Because you're screwing around with >> swapping in and out

Re: [DNG] vdev - udev is a dead end

Rick Moen wrote: > [Sorry, this ended up being longer than I'd hoped.] That's OK - it's worth the read. > Quoting Simon Hobson (li...@thehobsons.co.uk): > >> There was one other thing that came to mind earlier ... >> If ${company} decided to do that, and they had

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

Svante Signell wrote on 16/08/16 21:18: On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: However, it's somewhat peculiar that the CD (and DVD) Devuan installs require network. Without network it gets stuck early on. (Or maybe I'm doing something wrong there again?) Are you using

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

On Tue, 2016-08-16 at 20:38 +1000, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: > However, it's somewhat peculiar that the CD (and DVD) Devuan installs  > require network. Without network it gets stuck early on. (Or maybe I'm  > doing something wrong there again?) Are you using the beta images from April? Due to a

Re: [DNG] vdev

Hi all, On 08/16/2016 10:42 AM, aitor_czr wrote: VERY IMPORTANT: i'm working on a Server without Xorg. Don't use these packages on a desktop because i put in the debian/control the following lines for building the kernel within a chroot jail: Package: vdev Provides:

Re: [DNG] devuan i386 CD

Ralph Ronnquist wrote on 16/08/16 18:16: I am trying to install 32 bit Devuan from the CD (off the Download Zone), but it's gone into a badness loop at "Install the base system" at the point of installing busybox. I captured the installation syslog at this point, and it suggests 3 problem

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

Edward Bartolo: ... > LILO is out of question. ... > Besides that, it cannot recognize GPT formatted disks. It does not care about MBR vs. GPT as long it can find the blocks where the kernel and possible initrd/initramfs is. I use Lilo on two GPT formatted disks where the partitions are

[DNG] devuan i386 CD

I am trying to install 32 bit Devuan from the CD (off the Download Zone), but it's gone into a badness loop at "Install the base system" at the point of installing busybox. I captured the installation syslog at this point, and it suggests 3 problem points: Aug 16 08:00:40 base-installer: W:

Re: [DNG] vdev

Hi all, On 08/16/2016 08:38 AM, aitor_czr wrote: I just uploaded the new packages of VDEV to the old repository: http://gnuinos.org/unsystemd/ It includes: initramfs-tools, fskit, pstat and vdev I renamed some packages. Temporally there will be some fields like this

Re: [DNG] vdev

Sorry fsmithred, On 08/15/2016 09:09 PM, aitor_czr wrote: So, i did't change the /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions/ It should work. Cheers, Aitor. Now i can test the initramfs and yes, one funtion is empty :( I' fix it inmediately and upload the new initramfs-tool, together

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 08/16/2016 08:49 AM, aitor_czr wrote: On 08/16/2016 08:38 AM, aitor_czr wrote: I just uploaded the new packages of VDEV to the old repository I forgot: they are only available in i386 Aitor. The simbolic link /sbin/vdevfs replicates. Aitor.

Re: [DNG] lilo development has ended

Brad Campbell wrote: << I even migrated from Grub 0.9x to Grub2 and I've had nothing but unicorns and rainbows there too. Again, another learning curve, but nothing a couple of hours didn't sort out. I seem to be the only person alive that actually gets along with Grub, but that's ok because it

Re: [DNG] vdev

On 08/16/2016 08:38 AM, aitor_czr wrote: I just uploaded the new packages of VDEV to the old repository I forgot: they are only available in i386 Aitor. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org

Re: [DNG] vdev

Hi all, On 08/16/2016 12:58 AM, Ralph Ronnquist wrote: fsmithred wrote on 16/08/16 03:12: >I got an error from the latest make-initramfs.sh about a missing >/root/vdev-initramfs. The actual location of the script is in