Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-03 Thread Tito via Dng
On 1/3/20 10:11 PM, te...@tempforever.dynu.com wrote: fsmithred via Dng wrote: Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real thing. Did another successful upgrade.  XFCE desktop.  LVM

Re: [DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 11:57:02AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > had the same issue with mate. > iirc, consolekit is to blame. remove all related consolekit packages > first, and they'll be replaced by elogind ones. (if they don't, install > them by hand). > then dist-upgrade normally. Thanks

Re: [DNG] Migrating from debian stretch/ openbox

2020-01-03 Thread golinux
On 2020-01-03 19:24, Steve Litt wrote: On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:27:56 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: Furthermore, neither that guide[*] nor the os/ page[†] mention openbox. I have a minimal openbox installation, but it works for me. Hi Ale, I can't say for certain that Devuan has an

Re: [DNG] Migrating from debian stretch/ openbox

2020-01-03 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 3 Jan 2020 13:27:56 +0100 Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Furthermore, neither that guide[*] nor the os/ page[†] mention > openbox. I have a minimal openbox installation, but it works for me. Hi Ale, I can't say for certain that Devuan has an Openbox package, but would be very

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 04:11:11PM -0500, te...@tempforever.dynu.com wrote: > One (minor) irritation that I noticed both on this and my recent VM upgrade, > is root user no longer has /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin, /sbin in PATH Do you mean upon login, or su? If su, then you need to invoke su as su

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-03 Thread tempo
fsmithred via Dng wrote: Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real thing. Did another successful upgrade. XFCE desktop. LVM + LUKS. No major issues -- rebooted after the upgrade

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-03 Thread tempo
fsmithred via Dng wrote: Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real thing. Upgrade went pretty smoothly on a VirtualBox VM I use weekly. XFCE desktop. No "backports" for beowulf?

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-03 Thread golinux
On 2020-01-03 16:18, Bernard Rosset via Dng wrote: Having a setup running beowulf with an Xfce Desktop, and whatever theme I choose, I get white links on clear backgrounds. In applications that support it (like evolution), if I drift away from system fonts and switch back to them, the links are

[DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-03 Thread Bernard Rosset via Dng
Having a setup running beowulf with an Xfce Desktop, and whatever theme I choose, I get white links on clear backgrounds. In applications that support it (like evolution), if I drift away from system fonts and switch back to them, the links are black (and readable!) again. This oddity also

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2020-01-03 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting spiralofhope (spiralofh...@spiralofhope.com): > Thank you for the lesson. It all, and I think the above in particular, > is just the thing I needed to learn to approach the admins of the list > I've had such problems with. It may also be helpful to know that Mailman listadmins in _many_

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2020-01-03 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:30:28 -0800 Rick Moen wrote: > Because GMail > enforces at the time of receipt the declared DMARC policies of what > is asserted to be the source domain of an arriving mail, and because > yahoo.com has an r=reject DMARC policy and its declared roster of > authorised origins

Re: [DNG] Refracta Snapshot - Increase allowable size

2020-01-03 Thread fsmithred via Dng
On 1/3/20 7:50 AM, 'smee via Dng wrote: > In attempting to make a copy to upgrade (and report back), I ran into > the size limit (got an error in the log that the squashfs was 37 g and > I think it said allowable was 4 gb). I understand why a typical iso > would need to be small, but is there a

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-03 Thread tempforever
fsmithred via Dng wrote: Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real thing. Upgrade went pretty smoothly on a VirtualBox VM I use weekly. XFCE desktop. No "backports" for beowulf?

Re: [DNG] Migrating from debian stretch/ openbox

2020-01-03 Thread Mark Hindley
On Fri, Jan 03, 2020 at 01:27:56PM +0100, Alessandro Vesely via Dng wrote: > Hi all, > > After the latest GR, it seems to be time to migrate. Is ASCII the right > planet > to go? I found migrate-to-ascii[*] but no equivalent guide for beowulf. Ascii is stable and derived from stretch. Beowulf

[DNG] Migrating from debian stretch/ openbox

2020-01-03 Thread Alessandro Vesely via Dng
Hi all, After the latest GR, it seems to be time to migrate. Is ASCII the right planet to go? I found migrate-to-ascii[*] but no equivalent guide for beowulf. Furthermore, neither that guide[*] nor the os/ page[†] mention openbox. I have a minimal openbox installation, but it works for me.

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports - slim 3d try

2020-01-03 Thread Tito via Dng
On 12/31/19 8:58 PM, fsmithred via Dng wrote: Please upgrade your highly customized and configured ascii production system to beowulf and tell us if it works. Okay, DO THIS ON A COPY, not the real thing. I've upgraded standard no-X systems, xfce and mate desktops, and those went smoothly.

[DNG] Refracta Snapshot - Increase allowable size

2020-01-03 Thread 'smee via Dng
In attempting to make a copy to upgrade (and report back), I ran into the size limit (got an error in the log that the squashfs was 37 g and I think it said allowable was 4 gb). I understand why a typical iso would need to be small, but is there a way I can increase this size limitation for my

Re: [DNG] OT: Fedora in Debian

2020-01-03 Thread Rainer Weikusat via Dng
goli...@devuan.org writes: > Greetings all. Let's start the new year with something from the > Debian forums that might make you shake your head and chuckle. Poor > newbie on Windoze hasn't a clue just how funny his last para is: > > "The problems? The resulting bootable drive isn't booting in

Re: [DNG] OT: Fedora in Debian

2020-01-03 Thread onefang
On 2020-01-03 06:58:08, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 11:52:07PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > Greetings all. Let's start the new year with something from the Debian > > forums that might make you shake your head and chuckle. Poor newbie on > > Windoze hasn't a clue just

Re: [DNG] OT: Fedora in Debian

2020-01-03 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 11:52:07PM -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > Greetings all. Let's start the new year with something from the Debian > forums that might make you shake your head and chuckle. Poor newbie on > Windoze hasn't a clue just how funny his last para is: I don't get it. There

Re: [DNG] why is dist-upgrade trying to remove mate

2020-01-03 Thread Dimitris via Dng
On 1/3/20 9:41 AM, Mark Hindley wrote: > On Thu, Jan 02, 2020 at 10:45:28PM -0700, Gregory Nowak wrote: >> Hi All, >> I just did apt-get update followed by dist-upgrade on a Beowulf >> system, and I get this: > > Hi, > > I just pushed a new verion of policykit to beowulf. It could be related >