On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 15:30:28 -0800
Rick Moen <r...@linuxmafia.com> wrote:

> Because GMail
> enforces at the time of receipt the declared DMARC policies of what
> is asserted to be the source domain of an arriving mail, and because
> yahoo.com has an r=reject DMARC policy and its declared roster of
> authorised origins for yahoo.com mail doesn't include Dng's MTA host, 
> Gmail 55x-rejects Gmail User's copy.  He/she never sees Yahoo User's
> posting.  Worse, Mailman takes note of the 55x rejetion, and
> increments GMail User's bounce score, in effect sanctioning Gmail
> User for Yahoo User's domain's (IMO) problem-causing antiforgery
> procedures.
> 
> After a few such incidents, Gmail User gets his/her delivery disabled
> and eventually unsubscribed.

Thank you for the lesson.  It all, and I think the above in particular,
is just the thing I needed to learn to approach the admins of the list
I've had such problems with.

Now I can move away from "nefarious shadowbanning" to actual
troubleshooting.

  (This topic is new to me.  I always thought email was wholly
  unreliable and we'd one day just use PGP for actual authenticity.)
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