Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-19 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:14:14AM +, dal wrote: > The option to uninstall does not resolve the main problem, which should be > fixed upstream. I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree here. If someone connects a braille display which is supposed to work but doesn't, The log messages would

Re: [DNG] Avoid systemd as build dependency

2020-04-19 Thread aitor
Hi Yevgeny, On 19/4/20 21:41, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky wrote: Hi Aitor, I've been able to build base package already (3.31) after removing systemd dependencies with `sed -i '/systemd/d' packaging/debian/control`. I've run `make deb` and it's built deb package successfully on beowulf. The only

Re: [DNG] HW: Which brand and model of laptop have your successfully installed Devuan on?

2020-04-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 04:00:45PM -0600, Gabe Stanton via Dng wrote: > I installed Devuan Ascii on a Lenovo W530 via the live desktop > installer. I upgraded to Beowulf Beta a few months ago. > The install and upgrade were a breeze. > In general things are good. The only issue since upgrading

Re: [DNG] Avoid systemd as build dependency

2020-04-19 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi Aitor, I've been able to build base package already (3.31) after removing systemd dependencies with `sed -i '/systemd/d' packaging/debian/control`. I've run `make deb` and it's built deb package successfully on beowulf. The only thing I needed is to manually add init script. I am wondering

Re: [DNG] What an Ad hominem!

2020-04-19 Thread Peter Duffy
I agree. For me, the thing which has always put me off above all other things was the fact that systems running systemd often did not shut down cleanly. Manageable if it's a laptop on your desk and you have access to the on/off button and the power cord. Not so good if the box is a

Re: [DNG] Avoid systemd as build dependency

2020-04-19 Thread aitor
Hi Yevgeny, On 19/4/20 16:49, Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng wrote: Hi community. could someone point out the proper way of avoiding systemd build dependency? I find some packages require it at build time. https://github.com/libreswan/libreswan/issues/328 for example. It builds fine without

[DNG] Avoid systemd as build dependency

2020-04-19 Thread Yevgeny Kosarzhevsky via Dng
Hi community. could someone point out the proper way of avoiding systemd build dependency? I find some packages require it at build time. https://github.com/libreswan/libreswan/issues/328 for example. It builds fine without it, however debian maintainers need it for their reasons. -- Regards,

[DNG] What an Ad hominem!

2020-04-19 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Hi, SystemD detractors may, like myself, be repelled from using it because everytime they installed a systemd based distribution, it always greeted them with a system-wide freeze. Microsoft Windows has solved that issue of system-wide freezes since almost two decades. On my music player based on

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-19 Thread dal
-Original Message- From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Gregory Nowak Sent: den 19 april 2020 05:22 [skipped] For those who don't need brltty and who find the log messages a problem, uninstalling brltty should resolve the issue. -- The option to uninstall