Re: [DNG] backup

2020-05-19 Thread Rod Rodolico
As an aside, I have a set of USB drives at a client location. All have the label "archives" on the partition. I then create an fstab entry: LABEL=archives /media/archives ext4 noauto 0 2 or something like that (I don't remember the exact entry). They swap the drives out at will, and just before t

Re: [DNG] f2fs and beowulf: installation

2020-05-19 Thread ael
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 10:35:22PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > On Tuesday 19 May 2020 at 22:30:50, ael wrote: > > > I am hoping to install beowulf onto a new laptop in a week or two. > > I use f2fs on several drives with good results, so I want to > > use it on the root partition. f2fs seems the

Re: [DNG] f2fs and beowulf: installation

2020-05-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 19 May 2020 at 22:30:50, ael wrote: > I am hoping to install beowulf onto a new laptop in a week or two. > I use f2fs on several drives with good results, so I want to > use it on the root partition. f2fs seems the obvious choice on ssd's. https://howtos.davidsebek.com/debian-f2fs.html

[DNG] f2fs and beowulf: installation

2020-05-19 Thread ael
I am hoping to install beowulf onto a new laptop in a week or two. I use f2fs on several drives with good results, so I want to use it on the root partition. f2fs seems the obvious choice on ssd's. I have just downloaded devuan_beowulf_3.0.0_RC_desktop-amd64.iso, loop mounted it, and looked for an

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Rick Moen via Dng
Quoting Hendrik Boom (hend...@topoi.pooq.com): > Specifically, it says: > > "Do you think the Red Hat model would apply equally well to other > areas of software? " > > "Red Hat's model works because of the complexity of the technology we > work with. An operating platform has a lot of moving p

Re: [DNG] When spaces aren't just spaces [Was] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-19 Thread tuxd3v
Hello, Thanks for pointing that out :) Unfortunately I am responding via the integrated editor in the webmail. Citando marc : Hello This is a bit unrelated, but might be worth warning people about. Some editors no longer seem to be satisfied inserting plain spaces, but now deem it necessar

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Rick Moen via Dng
Quoting Jim Jackson (j...@franjam.org.uk): > My detachable backups devices have unique partitions labels and I place a > specifically named file in the root of the partition. My backup scripts > check for both and give up if they can't find both. THEN I do the dmesg > thing :-) Both really goo

[DNG] backup

2020-05-19 Thread william moss via Dng
If you set the partition label for the target of a file system archive, then the use of findmnt eliminates the need for a special location. For example: findmnt -P -t ext4,xfs -o source,target,label Note, the file systems in the example should be set to what you use for your archive media. Si

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Jim Jackson
On Mon, 18 May 2020, Rick Moen via Dng wrote: > (I do detachable backups to external USB hard drives, and make a point of > doing 'dmesg | tail' before mounting, to make sure it really is > /dev/sdc1 this time.) My detachable backups devices have unique partitions labels and I place a specifi

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread karl
Handrik: ... > What's sg_map? > > I don't seem to have one. ... $ man sg_map ... sg_map - displays mapping between Linux sg and other SCSI devices ... $ apt-file search sg_map sg3-utils: /usr/bin/sg_map sg3-utils: /usr/bin/sg_map26 sg3-utils: /usr/share/man/man8/sg_map.8.

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread dal
> I am. I eschew Occam's Razor in favor of Litt's Razor, which can be > paraphrased "Follow the money." > > As one piece of evidence I present the words of a Redhat exec long > before systemd existed: > > http://asay.blogspot.com/2006/10/interview-with-red-hat-cto-brian.html > > Search the word

Re: [DNG] When spaces aren't just spaces [Was] Has anybody else experienced Raspberry Pi breakage ?

2020-05-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 08:45:44AM +0200, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > Anno domini 2020 Tue, 19 May 08:09:46 +0200 > marc scripsit: > > Hello > > > > This is a bit unrelated, but might be worth warning people about. Some > > editors > > no longer seem to be satisfied inserting plain spaces, but n

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Mon, May 18, 2020 at 09:39:11PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Mon, 18 May 2020 08:57:39 -0700 > Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > > On 2020-05-18 16:42, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > > > In particular by porting Window$ on top of Systemd-Gnu-Linux, just > > > like MacOS lives on top of FreeBSD and makes bi

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 12:54:23AM +0200, k...@aspodata.se wrote: > Rick: > > Quoting Ian Zimmerman (i...@very.loosely.org): > ... > > > it. If only I had listened to my nagging inner voice and looked at > > > /dev/disk/by-id first, I'd have been okay. > > I'm a lot more concerned about servers, pe

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Peter Duffy
Apologies for following up on my own post - just an afterthought. When I originally encountered systemd, the word was that it was so pervasive that it couldn't be removed (obviously, now we know different ;) ) Given the alleged non-optionality of systemd, I started to wonder about some kind of a

Re: [DNG] without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread al3xu5 / dotcommon
Mon, 18 May 2020 08:57:39 -0700 - Ian Zimmerman : > On 2020-05-18 16:42, Didier Kryn wrote: > > > In particular by porting Window$ on top of Systemd-Gnu-Linux, just > > like MacOS lives on top of FreeBSD and makes big profit. > > How would that work from the legal POV? Linux is still GPL, pret

Re: [DNG] Device naming: was Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-19 Thread Rick Moen via Dng
Quoting Steve Litt (sl...@troubleshooters.com): > Substitute the word "needlessly complex" for "overengineered" and I > don't like it either. But 1), I don't think you'd get anywhere near > universal agreement that by_path, by_id, etc is either overengineered > or needlessly complex, [...] One in