Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-05-28 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Thu, 2020-05-28 at 16:15 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > I'm on > 4.9.0-6-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 4.9.88-1+deb9u1 (2018-05-07) x86_64 > GNU/Linux > from the beowulf repository; but then I'm running beowulf for quite > a > while now. > I can't say I understand the version numbers -- both 4.9.0-6 an

Re: [DNG] kernel instabilities

2020-05-28 Thread 'smee via Dng
Since you mention 4.19... I've got: kernel version: 4.19.98-1 (2020-01-26) kernel release: 4.19.0-8-amd64cpu: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7- 3740QM CPU @ 2.70GHz I mentioned previously that when I run a cpu-heavy application (cpu cryptominer) for a number of hours (14 ho

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-23 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sat, 2020-05-23 at 19:54 +0100, Jim Jackson wrote: > Generally, why does apparmor get installed on a dist-upgrade, when > it > wasn't there initially? It isn't as if it's a new "thing". That's a good question. > I got it > on my ascii -> beowulf upgrade, and removed it. That was the first

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-23 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sat, 2020-05-23 at 21:08 +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote: > bug report link, was about /var/cache, not /var/log (?).. anyway, the > > default apparmor profile has this : > > > > # some people like to put logs in /var/log/named/ instead of having > > # syslog do the heavy lifting. > > /

[DNG] Beowulf, and Apparmor's effect on bind9

2020-05-23 Thread 'smee via Dng
Hello list, This issue has a workaround that works fine but I want to throw this info out there in case it's useful to anyone else or to the devs. I've got a couple dns servers that I installed initially with ascii. After upgrading to Beowulf, bind9 wouldn't start any more. Turned out to be a p

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-15 Thread 'smee via Dng
ting. I guess that if I used the netinstall image I wouldn't have any issues. I can test that if you'd like on one or both machines and report back. On Mon, 2020-01-13 at 13:02 -0700, 'smee wrote: > On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 10:50 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > On F

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-13 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 10:50 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 18:15 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:25 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > I just installed a fresh ascii install, ran update-initramfs -u and > >

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-13 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 09:52 -0700, 'smee wrote: > On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 10:50 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 18:15 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:25 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng > > > >

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-13 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 10:50 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 18:15 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:25 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > I just installed a fresh ascii install, ran update-initramfs -u and > >

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, I2Pd, libboost 1.62 vs 1.67

2020-01-12 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 21:51 -0500, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 1/12/20 9:19 PM, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Oh I see, I'm on 2.29.0 but it is locally compiled and not > > installed. I > > guess if I were to compile the same version again in Beowulf (since > >

Re: [DNG] Beowulf, I2Pd, libboost 1.62 vs 1.67

2020-01-12 Thread 'smee via Dng
Oh I see, I'm on 2.29.0 but it is locally compiled and not installed. I guess if I were to compile the same version again in Beowulf (since it's the latest) it would pickup the correct version...? On Sun, 2020-01-12 at 20:59 -0500, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 1/12/20 8:40 PM,

[DNG] Beowulf, I2Pd, libboost 1.62 vs 1.67

2020-01-12 Thread 'smee via Dng
I tried running i2pd on my recently upgraded Beowulf instance but found it errors out looking for libboost 1.62.0 libraries, which libboostx.xx-dev appears to be an automatic install. Should I expect any problems rolling libboost1.67.0 back to 1.62.0. A quick search reveals that trying to install

Re: [DNG] Expert Install option

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Sat, 2020-01-11 at 00:11 -0600, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > On 2020-01-10 23:55, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Is there a reason I don't see 'Expert Install' as an option in my > > ascii > > live installer image? I don't seem to be able to

[DNG] Expert Install option

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
Is there a reason I don't see 'Expert Install' as an option in my ascii live installer image? I don't seem to be able to locate it anywhere...am I just missing it? Thanks ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mail

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
> On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:25 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:17 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > Actually, after apt remove *nonfree (and a reboot for good > > > measure), > > > update-initramfs -u still comes back w

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
ascii fresh and seewhat I get. On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 11:25 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:17 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Actually, after apt remove *nonfree (and a reboot for good > > measure), > > update-initramfs -u still comes

Re: [DNG] Ascii/Beowulf nonfree firmware

2020-01-10 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Fri, 2020-01-10 at 20:35 +0900, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi, > > 'smee via Dng writes: > > > Sorry to fill up everyone's inbox today with this subject, and > > again > > with this email, but I thought I'd add this last bit in relation to > >

Re: [DNG] Ascii/Beowulf nonfree firmware

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
Apologies again, but I feel I should share one more relevant observation. The one thing that DOES appear to have changed since removing *nonfree is that the WICD icon disappeared from my panel (xfce, top right corner, default icon setting there). Seems relevant, again because it's the only noticeab

[DNG] Ascii/Beowulf nonfree firmware

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
Sorry to fill up everyone's inbox today with this subject, and again with this email, but I thought I'd add this last bit in relation to this whole thing. According to the ascii release notes, the nonfree firmware should be for the wi-fi driver. Maybe later patches included the addition of graphic

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 17:30 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > But, right there on that same page, where it lists ascii, why does it > not list the new policy? > > Also, can you point me to where ascii's policy on nonfree software? A > web search for 'devuan ascii non

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
:27 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Sorry that was in Jessie. I guess I never saw the one for ascii. > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 17:24 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > But what about this... out of date? Can't be mis-interpreting > > it...that > > really implies

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
Sorry that was in Jessie. I guess I never saw the one for ascii. On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 17:24 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > But what about this... out of date? Can't be mis-interpreting > it...that > really implies that any default install of Devuan should not have > nonfree

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
vuan.org wrote: > On 2020-01-09 15:28, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Actually, when you run the ascii live installer, both of those > > programs > > are present. > > > > Should that be the case? I thought devuan include nothing nonfree > > by > > defa

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
all any of them manually. On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 16:39 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > It seems like it did that, tried to remove a number of packages that > aren't installed, but also found those intel and amd programs, and > removed those. Seems to have accomplished exactly what I ne

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
:34:34PM -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Below is the output from apt remove *nonfree. > > It looks as if this command removed, or tried to remove, all packages > whose name > ended in "nonfree". > > But wouldn't it look for files whose names ended in &q

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
Actually, after apt remove *nonfree (and a reboot for good measure), update-initramfs -u still comes back with the same exact output including that last line... On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 23:13 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:34 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: &

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:28 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Actually, when you run the ascii live installer, both of those > programs > are present. > > Should that be the case? I thought devuan include nothing nonfree by > default...I have to make it part of my routine to remove

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
2020-01-09 at 14:21 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > I just checked another machine that is still running ascii, on which > I > would never have installed anything nonfree, or via wget or dpkg, and > yet both firmware-linux-nonfree and firmware-misc-nonfree are there. > > I&#x

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
spect they won't be, which will mean one of the few programs I run on that machine would be at fault, so that should make it easier to narrow down. This is pretty odd though. On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 14:00 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Well I'll just remove the damn things

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
Well I'll just remove the damn things and see if nothing blows up :) On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:55 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > Sorry if we're getting off track here but I honestly don't recall > > installing anything nonfree on this machine. > > We may never get to the bottom of this mystery

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
rote: > On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:40:16, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:29 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > > On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:25:51, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > "i firmware-linux-nonfree Depends fi

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:29 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:25:51, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > Does "aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree" help? > > > > nothing other than itself listed after depends... > > >

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
date, please try 'aptitude update' (or equivalent); otherwise some packages or versions are not available from the current repository sources On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:13 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:00:57, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > apt

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
ee wrote: > apt show showed that firmware-misc-nonfree was not installed > manually. > > I tried a apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree but that > didn't do anything except mark it as manually installed. > > > > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 12:57 -0700, 'smee

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
apt show showed that firmware-misc-nonfree was not installed manually. I tried a apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree but that didn't do anything except mark it as manually installed. On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 12:57 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Is firmware-misc-nonfree a d

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
Is firmware-misc-nonfree a dependency for something? I don't recall installing it manually and didn't think it would be there by default. Apt doesn't say auto or manual, but it is installed. Maybe needs an update... On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 20:38 +0100, Svante Signell via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2020-01

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
20-01-09 at 11:31 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Here is the output from apt when I upgraded. Various repeating > > messages > > about missing firmware. > > I haven't rebooted yet, or done anything else really. Slightly > > worried > > I

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread 'smee via Dng
Here is the output from apt when I upgraded. Various repeating messages about missing firmware. I haven't rebooted yet, or done anything else really. Slightly worried I'll lose graphics when I reboot because of the message. Reading state information... Done The following packages will be upgrade

[DNG] Upgrade Report - Focus Follows Mouse enabled during upgrade

2020-01-08 Thread 'smee via Dng
I noticed that in Beowulf, on Xfce at least, focus follows mouse was enabled during the upgrade. For those experiencing the same who want to disable it, I did so via Settings > Window Manager > Focus tab and chose the 'Click to focus' radio button. _

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-05 Thread 'smee via Dng
I ended up finding the solution was to run 'apt --fix-broken install' just like that without specifying any package. After running that, dist-upgrade worked. On Sun, 2020-01-05 at 11:15 -0700, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Updated my daily driver, everything so far looks good. > &g

Re: [DNG] We need upgrade reports

2020-01-05 Thread 'smee via Dng
Updated my daily driver, everything so far looks good. I use xfce with Xfce-orange for the theme and noticed the orange turned red. Not a problem, just an observation. I had the problem with su root that tempo had and used tito's solution to fix it. (thanks temp and tito) One odd thing that hap

Re: [DNG] Refracta Snapshot - Increase allowable size

2020-01-04 Thread 'smee via Dng
if I continue having trouble I'll try changing -iso-level 3 to compliance iso_9660_level=3 and see if that helps anything. Thanks for the help! On Fri, 2020-01-03 at 12:16 -0500, fsmithred via Dng wrote: > On 1/3/20 7:50 AM, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > In attempting to make a c

[DNG] Refracta Snapshot - Increase allowable size

2020-01-03 Thread 'smee via Dng
In attempting to make a copy to upgrade (and report back), I ran into the size limit (got an error in the log that the squashfs was 37 g and I think it said allowable was 4 gb). I understand why a typical iso would need to be small, but is there a way I can increase this size limitation for my cust

Re: [DNG] Again, again: DMARC is a no-win problem for mailing lists

2019-12-28 Thread 'smee via Dng
Is there a clear rule about when the sender displays as an individual, vs "individual via DNG"? Just during this discussion I've seen it both ways. It hasn't been a problem for me, likely because I seldom participate (that won't always be the case), but I can see it being a hassle for a regular c