On 02/10/19 at 02:53, Steve Litt wrote:
> Anyway, could all of you except Dimitris forget you ever saw my email?
What email?
:-)
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On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on
> libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.)
>
> The version of udisks2 in beowulf is very old compared to what's in
> buster.
Really? I'm on beowulf now, and I have:
ii udisks2
On 07/09/19 at 01:58, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 07/09/19 at 00:34, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
>> On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>> On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
>>>> In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on
On 07/09/19 at 00:34, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
> On 9/6/19 5:43 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 06/09/19 at 15:23, fsmithred via Dng wrote:
>>> In ascii, udisks2 has been devuanized to remove a dependency on
>>> libpam-systemd (and maybe libsystemd0, too.)
>&g
we don't really need to devuanize udisks2
> anymore. Do we?
>
> Does anyone use udisks2 who doesn't want libpam-elogind or libelogind0
> with it?
I have them both, and I have nothing against them.
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Thanks,
Thank you, Steve. I appreciate.
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ink there are 8 files, as opposed to folders.
>
> I downloaded the netinst.iso file on a machine
> running debian, used sha256sum to verify, and
> burned using a dd command.
You can put an ISO image on a USB flash stick with dd, but you cannot
burn a CD or a DVD with it.
To do that
user
> configuration details.
>
> https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged/dists/ & mirrors only seem to contain :
Here is Ceres' stuff on pkgmaster:
https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/devuan/dists/ceres/
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e make sure you have the latest devuan-keyring
> package with apt-get install devuan-keyring and then point
> your /etc/apt/sources.list to deb.devuan.org."
>
>
> Indeed, when I change the sources.list to auto.mirror.devuan.org, I got
> updates.
>
> So I guess, the documentation at
project.
> Enzo, please enjoy your leave and come back soon. Speaking for myself,
> you have my full and unreserved confidence.
And mine as well.
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free and proprietary.
How could you expect Devuan to do differently?
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) is still there.
>>
>> My2Cents
>>
>> KatolaZ
>>
> killall -9 wpa_supplicant
>
> ;-)
THOU SHALL NOT KILL -9!
https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/28572/when-you-try-to-terminate-a-process-for-good-which-option-for-kill-should-you#28578
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file name and permissions are
> correct."
>
> does it refer to local.php?
I don't think so, at least not the one in /etc. But again, I'm not a
webmaster, I speak from a purely sysadmin point of view.
> Greetings
> Basati
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f0101
>
> which is the same value!!!
>
> I wonder... is it a "fixed" id for all Devuan installation as it seems to be?
>
> And if it is so,is it correct that it is?
How intriguing!
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oke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of alarm.
[root@wkstn05 ~]#
my id is 0x007f0101
So what? Can't you read man gethostid(3)?
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e in the Internet it
is. What you described is the gethostbyname syscall.
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time and date fields are:
field allowed values
- --
minute 0-59
hour 0-23
day of month 1-31
month 1-12 (or names, see below)
day
ium
> tracking you is not particularly smart: I am pretty sure chromium
> would just read it when it starts, and then keep it in RAM, so you
> might need to restart chromium every 10 minutes as well.
Plus, I would not make it evident to programs that my machine-id value
is bogus. I&#
-1 >/etc/machine-id |tee \
> >/dev/null 2>&1 " to keep this lightweight in my end and not
> in the other end. :o)
The use of fortune as a RNG is telling of the number of gray hair you
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echo $RANDOM | md5sum | cut -c 1-32 > /etc/machine-id
or maybe:
dd count=1 if=/dev/urandom 2> /dev/null | md5sum | cut -c 1-32 >
/etc/machine-id
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names.
-a, --all Display both listening and non-listening
-l, --listening Display only listening sockets (useless together with -a)
-p, --processes Show process using socket.
Just like the same options for the netstat command.
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On 08/03/19 at 16:30, Bot Fap wrote:
>
>
> On Fri, 8 Mar 2019, 00:10 Alessandro Selli, <mailto:alessandrose...@linux.com>> wrote:
>
> On 08/03/19 at 00:50, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> >
> > It's intriguing to see you get so emotional
On 08/03/19 at 05:26, terryc wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 22:05:39 +0100
> Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
>> On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>>> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
>>>> Next improvement would be using current comma
On 08/03/19 at 01:19, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
> Allesandro, my friend, over many years on the Internet, I've found that
> certain discussions are best concluded with amicable production of the
> set of facts that all present (w
On 08/03/19 at 01:09, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 10:56 am:
>> Please tell us. When you need to do firewalling, what do you use and why?
>> 1) ipfwadm
>> 2) ipchains
>> 3) iptables
> I assume you ask me specifically.
ything different than obsolete and deprecated. You only have your
personal convictions to show.
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On 07/03/19 at 23:26, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am:
>> I did not write they are useless. I wrote that they are obsolete and
>> deprecated.
>
> Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither.
Please tell us.
On 07/03/19 at 23:26, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 9:04 am:
>> I did not write they are useless. I wrote that they are obsolete and
>> deprecated.
>
> Yes. And those terms are badly chosen, because they are neither.
They are b
On 07/03/19 at 22:18, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 8:05 am:
>> On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
>>> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
>>>> Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and
On 07/03/19 at 21:22, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote:
> Alessandro Selli wrote on 8/3/19 6:49 am:
>> Next improvement would be using current commands (ip and iw) in place
>> of the obsolete and deprecated ones, i.e. ifconfig and iwconfig:
> The terms "obsolete" and &
reless-Extensions/#Is_WE_being_further_developed_.3F
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On Sat, 2 Mar 2019 at 16:06:51 -0500
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> Currently booting from a 750G BIOS-partitioned disk.
> Trying to enable booting from the 4.7T drive, which is GPT
> partitioned.
>
> With grub-install I get errors:
>
> april:/farhome/hendrik# grub-install /dev/sda
> Installing for i386
On 16/02/19 at 11:26, chillfan--- via Dng wrote:
> And of course I don't need nft
Yes, you do.
For some reason you don't *want* it, but that's a different matter.
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ested to know how if
> anyone has.
>
> ozi
>
> VirtualBox_test-64_15_02_2019_07_11_44.png
Please don't include a picture when a copy-and-paste would suffice.
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supports gpg version 1.
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pend on systemd to start at reboot
>
> Sounds like something we don't want.
I agree. All I need to automate updates is a cron job
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On 10/02/19 at 11:26, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> There's nothing in the logs. It just takes verry long to start.
Run it in verbose/debug mode.
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Debian ones if not.
>
You can get it here:
https://store.steampowered.com/about/
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On 09/02/19 at 03:00, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote:
>
> 'the screen' is not clear to me. I suspect it means something else that
> is not a screen, because screens are not in charge of responding to
> keyboards or mouses.
Of course they are. Their response to kb/mouse events is the ma
On 09/02/19 at 00:13, Gonzalo Pérez de Olaguer Córdoba wrote:
> Hi Alessandro.
>
> El Fri, 8 Feb 2019 21:53:44 +0100
> Alessandro Selli escribió:
>
>> This afternoon I happened to be surprised I could not use my
>> laptop's GUI because the screen was unresponsi
On 09/02/19 at 00:08, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 09, 2019 at 12:38:06AM +0200, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
>> hey,
>>
>> On 2/8/19 10:53 PM, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>> � I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI.
>>>
>> it wa
On 08/02/19 at 23:46, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> grep eudev /var/log/messages returned nothing, on /var/log/syslog I
> only got a few instances of:
>
> Feb 8 20:17:13 wkstn05 vmunix: [ 2.508284] udevd[213]: starting
> eudev-3.2.2
>
Sorry, this if from the second PC wh
grep eudev /var/log/messages returned nothing, on /var/log/syslog I only
got a few instances of:
Feb 8 20:17:13 wkstn05 vmunix: [ 2.508284] udevd[213]: starting
eudev-3.2.2
On 08/02/19 at 23:34, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 08, 2019 at 09:53:44PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>>
d any line
about keyboard and mouse configuration. This was due to the fact eudev
failed to start at boot.
I shut down the DM, started eudev manually and I could recover the GUI.
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unlikely that a minute passes between cron startup and it's
execution. But putting an ad hoc script is the best thing.
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On 03/02/19 at 15:48, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Sun, 3 Feb 15:44:55 +0100
> Alessandro Selli scripsit:
>> On 03/02/19 at 15:28, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> [...]
>> Next issue, firefox has lost his voice. But only when run from XFCE's
>> pa
On 03/02/19 at 15:28, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 03/02/19 at 15:09, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 03/02/19 at 14:59, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
>>> Anno domini 2019 Sun, 3 Feb 14:53:30 +0100
>>> Alessandro Selli scripsit:
>>>> On 02/02/19
On 03/02/19 at 15:09, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> On 03/02/19 at 14:59, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
>> Anno domini 2019 Sun, 3 Feb 14:53:30 +0100
>> Alessandro Selli scripsit:
>>> On 02/02/19 at 21:43, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote:
>>> [...]
>>> I took
On 03/02/19 at 14:59, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Anno domini 2019 Sun, 3 Feb 14:53:30 +0100
> Alessandro Selli scripsit:
>> On 02/02/19 at 21:43, Harald Arnesen via Dng wrote:
>> [...]
>> I took away the deb-multimedia repository *before* the upgrade, left
>> th
2-2
Candidate: 0.4.12-2
Version table:
*** 0.4.12-2 500
500 https://pkgmaster.devuan.org/merged beowulf/main amd64 Packages
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vdcss2 ? Have I missed some
> important development in the last years?
You can get libdvdcss2 also from the Videolan repository, they have
just that package AFAICT:
deb https://download.videolan.org/pub/debian/stable/ /
> Nik
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y more complicated from the '60ies than
cars and auto repair shop have.
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[Time references are from the video on
https://judecnelson.blogspot.com/2014/09/systemd-biggest-fallacies.html ]
On 31/01/19 at 12:56, Dmitrii Kashin wrote:
> В Чт, 31/01/2019 в 00:19 +0100, Alessandro Selli пишет:
[...]
> I'd like to notice that Benno just repeats systemd&#
several bug
reports against it! 😈
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On 31/01/19 at 03:38, Joel Roth via Dng wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 31, 2019 at 12:19:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> Might interest someone:
>>
>> https://lwn.net/Articles/777595/
>>
>> [Front] Posted Jan 28, 2019 20:05 UTC (Mon) by corbet
>>
>> His a
nux system.
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echies would appreciate sparing
themselves some time just to let their system behave in a sane way.
But let's start with a simple howto first.
Where shall we coordinate our effort, push our contributions to?
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as ears to hear and a
mouth to speak, and it's been a pretty long time that software has been
used to deliver not just text, but video and audio as well (jeez, I
first did it on a Pentium-166!).
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this out
>
Yes, it's amazing.
Even more amazing is that such a software was almost universally
adopted as a key piece of the OS.
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y of good news, the new year is starting
positively!
Happy New Year to everybody!
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keys XX (where XX is the selector of
the natioonal language, pt for Portugese), under X11 you can use
setxkbmap XX instead.
Hope it works.
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On 25/12/18 at 10:51, aitor wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I recently packaged the icecat browser for devuan ascii replacing to
> mozilla firefox:
>
> http://www.packages.gnuinos.org/gnuinos/pool/main/i/icecat/
>
Very well, that's a neat Xman present! ☺
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AFAIR, uptime is not maintained through a kexec.
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hen, sometime,
in the future, when I get enough time to do it, I'll migrate it to
Devuan...)
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On 16/12/18 at 11:10, KatolaZ wrote:
> However, I am pretty sure that 99.9% of the Devuaners would probably
> find the result quite uncomfortable, inconvenient, skinny, and overly
> archaic.
Not I.
What VUA would?
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On 12/12/18 at 00:36, aitor wrote:
> Thanks for your attention, and merry christmas to all of you :)
Thank you for your contribution, and Happy Christmas and Merry New
Year to you! ☺
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scription:Devuan GNU/Linux 2.0 (ascii)
> 4.18.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
>
> What should I be looking at from within Devuan?
>
> /Lars
i solved a like problem unloading and re-loading snd_hda_intel. See
if the same happens to you (maybe with some other audio modules,
according with w
ical environment;
3. people in the organization are already familiar with it (ie, they're
all grey-haired or bald and gray-bearded or look like Yoda);
4. long-term support is not an issue.
In all other instances, run LDAP and/or Samba instead.
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sysvinit system. Can't bind from either a sysvinit
Desktop nor a systemd Desktop the sysvinit server. Nevertheless why
don't we update to ypbind-mt-1.38?
Elimar
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Il 03/12/18 12:53, Alessandro Selli ha scritto:
> On 03/12/18 at 11:30, Edward Bartolo wrote:
>> Running "update-rc.d rsyslog disable 2" resulted in error messages
>> like the following:
>>
>> ERROR MESSAGE:
>> insserv: warning: current start runleve
runlevels 2 and 3 only.
Running:
update-rc.d atd disable
would disable atd on all runlevels.
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On 03/12/18 at 10:50, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 03, 2018 at 10:33:44AM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 03/12/18 at 10:05, Adam Borowski wrote:
>>> realtime greatly reduces atime writes, but it's still too much.
>> I wouldn't say so. Since relat
napshots"?
> So it's time to kill the nasty thing.
If only it was any nasty.
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om Debian on January 2017:
https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/flashybrid
Looks like development upstream stopped 11 years ago:
https://github.com/elcuco/flashybrid
Latest commit 2a0d291
<https://github.com/elcuco/flashybrid/commit/2a0d291101605ecc9511e5fea6d29f91d98be0a1>
on 23 Sep 2007
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Your method does make sense. It even works for root! ☺
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On 02/12/18 at 17:23, Adam Borowski wrote:
> You'd want to set noatime on every machine
> you control.
Some mail servers and clients do use it to determine if a mail was
read after it arrived. In this case, it'd be better to have it set on /var.
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CRLfile: none
Err:32 https://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-updates/main amd64 Packages
server certificate verification failed. CAfile:
/etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none
Err:49 https://deb.devuan.org/merged ascii-security/main amd64 Packages
pfs relatime0 1
>
> Or disable rsyslogd .. I think it was this sequence:
> # update-rc.d rsyslog disable 2
> # update-rc.d rsyslog disable 3
> # update-rc.d rsyslog disable 4
> # update-rc.d rsyslog disable 5
update-rc.d rsyslog disable
will wor
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ilesystem.sh ; sync)
real 3m39,434s
user 0m1,024s
sys 0m1,950s
[alessandro@wkstn02 ~]$ time (\rm -r /mnt/loop/Dir_* ; sync)
real 0m2,486s
user 0m0,002s
sys 0m0,082s
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disabled (nobarrier or barrier=0).
These mount options will increase the chance of data loss and
filesystem corruption in the case of an abnormal filesystem close
(system crash or sudden power loss), but significantly decrease the
number of write operations on the ext4 filesystem during regular
On 29/11/18 at 18:19, Roger Leigh wrote:
> If you're a ZFS user
Yeah, that's it.
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gt; the place where both live together - I have one desktop like this.
Server's peculiarities do deserve to be taken into consideration by a
soi-disant universal OS. IIRC Debian is used a lot on servers.
Why do you think ro, nodev, barrier, sync and other mount options do no make
sense on a RA
aying: "Since most people at home have been doing a
poor job at using different closets to store only their own stuff and
each different closet's drawer to put different kinds of clothing, let's
dump together whatever belongs to anyone in a big ch
i.e. to cater to the needs of entire classes of users, that they
are already here or that they may develop in the future. GNU/Linux is
just losing in adaptability, potability and customizability, which was
one of the reasons many people switched to it.
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tive that the system does not come down crashing and burning was
/usr damaged, allowing the superuser to login to see what happened and
attempt to recover the lost data when the system is still online.
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sions regarding filesystem layout do
not take into consideration servers?
Why do you think ro, nodev, barrier, sync and other mount options do
make sense on a RAID/LVM filesystem?
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On 28/11/18 at 12:15, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Why do you think ro, nodev, barrier, sync and other mount options do
> make sense on a RAID/LVM filesystem?
"... do NOT make sense ..."
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ry exec in / that has
libraries in /usr on a system that mounts /usr over an NFS mount
regardless of what the local / is lying on (local disk or network
filesystem).
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;s the reason swapon checks the file's permissions and does warn
you if they allow anybody other that the owner to read it).
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si
r my own use case (granting your point
> about /bin/kill and /bin/ps as provided in packaged versions I am not
> yet running). If I encounter that, I will consider that situation to
> involve critical bugs that I would resolve through the package
> maintainer if possible
On 28/11/18 at 09:08, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Alessandro Selli (alessandrose...@linux.com):
>
>> Can you name me one distribution other than Red Hat (which in
>> fact is not a desktop-friendly distribution) that does not allow one to
>> "do their own partition setu
On 23/11/18 at 18:26, goli...@dyne.org wrote:
> On 2018-11-23 09:03, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> On 23/11/18 at 14:32, Stephan Seitz wrote:
>>>
>>> Again, are you doing the work for your setup you care so much?
>>
>>
>> Yes, I am. It's me who des
ssage/20181118.010137.9938d5f1.en.html
Wrong, you did get my response:
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20181118.033658.96309362.en.html
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On 23/11/18 at 23:17, Roger Leigh wrote:
> So if you're insistent upon retaining a separate /usr, that shouldn't
> be a problem.
Tomorrow morning at 4:00 o'clock I'll wake everyone up ringing the
Church's bells to celebrate.
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mad a a piece of hardware! You only spared it
the flame-thrower!
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On 23/11/18 at 15:52, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 02:52:00PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>> My rants were an answer to a (former) Debian maintainer/devloper who
>> was on this list justifying the necessity of Debian's / -> me
On 23/11/18 at 14:32, Stephan Seitz wrote:
> On Fr, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:09:17 +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>> I do get the reasons the merge proponents prefer this filesystem
>> layout. What I rant against is their choices being imposed on me.
>
> They are not imposed on
On 23/11/18 at 14:25, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 23, 2018 at 01:09:17PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
>
> [cut]
>
>>
>>> Devuan is currently used in a mutlitude of
>>> environments that include server farms, corporate and personal
>>> servers, emb
ted modems using udev's
rules (the ASCII package install 18 such rules). Yet, I think sometimes
human intervention is still needed, and of course several USB modems (as
well as PCMCIA/CardBus ones and some WiFi dongles and Access Points) are
partially, poorly or not supported at all.
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