Re: [DNG] Your recent Beowulf 3.00 release

2020-07-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 08 July 2020 at 01:05:35, Alberto Pereira via Dng wrote: > Things turned out to be a little different with the DVD version > regrettably: I installed the KDE and MATE desktops together and the > following happened. When using the MATE desktop, internet via Ethernet > was not

Re: [DNG] 'apt-get update' fails on Devuan Boewulf.

2020-06-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 15 June 2020 at 15:31:04, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > Lately, when I attempt to update Devuan Boewulf, apt-get fails > complaining that I should explicitly accept the repositories. Reading > 'man apt-secure' talks about changes in Debian's security which has > the aim to

Re: [DNG] Jessie to Beowulf?

2020-06-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 15 June 2020 at 12:30:36, Luciano Mannucci wrote: > Hello everybody! Just a quick question: > > Can I upgrade my Jessie to Beowulf directly or I have to upgrade > to Ascii first? I would expect it's exactly the same as Debian - you have to go from one release to the next, you can't

Re: [DNG] Boot hangs with usb disk active in fstab

2020-06-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 12 June 2020 at 17:01:14, J. Fahrner via Dng wrote: > I'm running Devuan Beowulf on an Odroid C2 mini computer. > I cannot attach a monitor because I have no suitable cable. > Any ideas how to debug this problem? I think my initial approach would be to just buy an HDMI cable -

Re: [DNG] f2fs and beowulf: installation

2020-05-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 19 May 2020 at 22:30:50, ael wrote: > I am hoping to install beowulf onto a new laptop in a week or two. > I use f2fs on several drives with good results, so I want to > use it on the root partition. f2fs seems the obvious choice on ssd's.

Re: [DNG] Felker Init: was without-systemd.org not working

2020-05-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 16 May 2020 at 11:30:03, Steve Litt wrote: > You know, runit's or s6's process supervisor could be used, on systemd > systems, as a tobacco patch to wean the user off systemd, one process > at a time. As each daemon gets moved to runit or s6, that daemon's unit > file name gets put in

Re: [DNG] Devuan success report - Old Toshiba

2020-05-10 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 11 May 2020 at 00:31:30, Riccardo Mottola via Dng wrote: > Hi all! > > I want to cheer up and write thanks with a small success story of > Devuan and comparison to Debian. Nice :) > I have an old Toshiba Satellite laptop, with a wonderful soft touch > keyboard, PS/2 Port, Serial

Re: [DNG] Devuan keyring

2020-04-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 26 April 2020 at 16:02:00, g4sra via Dng wrote: > On 26/04/2020 12:31, Mike Tubby wrote: > > Try this: > > > > https://devuan.org/os/keyring/ > > Wrong key 0x94532124541922FB, require 0xBB23C00C61FC752C... 0x94532124541922FB was created in 2014, and 0xBB23C00C61FC752C was created in

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 20 April 2020 at 02:51:51, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Apr 19, 2020 at 08:14:14AM +, dal wrote: > > The option to uninstall does not resolve the main problem, which should > > be fixed upstream. > > I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree here. If someone connects a > braille

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 13:47:25, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote: > Hi, > > Antony Stone writes: > > > > It's definitely not Devuan-specific; I don't know whether it is > > Debian-specific, or generic to any distro which includes brltty. I've > > only ever u

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 13:17:41, dal wrote: > -Original Message- > From: Dng [mailto:dng-boun...@lists.dyne.org] On Behalf Of Antony Stone > Sent: den 18 april 2020 12:05 > > On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 12:00:18, dal wrote: > > Is it only me who gets in /var

Re: [DNG] Beowulf Beta is here!

2020-04-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 18 April 2020 at 12:00:18, dal wrote: > Is it only me who gets in /var/log/daemon.log loads of > > brltty[...]: file system mount error: usbfs[brltty-usbfs] -> > /var/run/brltty/usbfs: No such device Did you deliberately install accessibility for blind people? brltty is the Braille

Re: [DNG] AMD Ryzen?

2020-03-18 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 18 March 2020 at 22:02:08, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Wed, Mar 18, 2020 at 06:24:27PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs? > > > > I'm just planning to get a new PC, and I've generally preferred AMD

[DNG] AMD Ryzen?

2020-03-18 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. Does anyone here have experience of running Devuan on AMD Ryzen CPUs? I'm just planning to get a new PC, and I've generally preferred AMD to Intel, so just wondering whether there's anything I need to look out for with pretty much the latest hardware.

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:51:32, 'smee via Dng wrote: > Right, and as I mention apt says firmware-linux-nonfree was manually > installed, but I don't recall installing it. It says it isn't a > dependency for anything else, so it wasn't installed as a dependency > when I installed

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:40:16, 'smee via Dng wrote: > On Thu, 2020-01-09 at 21:29 +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:25:51, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > > > > > "i firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree (= > &

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:25:51, 'smee via Dng wrote: > > Does "aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree" help? > > nothing other than itself listed after depends... > > "i firmware-linux-nonfree Depends firmware-misc-nonfree (= 20161130- > 3)" No, that's not itself :) Thats'

Re: [DNG] When upgrading to Beowulf please test and report issues with eudev-3.2.9-2 from unstable!

2020-01-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 09 January 2020 at 21:00:57, 'smee via Dng wrote: > apt show showed that firmware-misc-nonfree was not installed manually. Does "aptitude why firmware-misc-nonfree" help? > I tried a apt --fix-broken install firmware-misc-nonfree but that > didn't do anything except mark it as

Re: [DNG] Fonts trouble on beowulf

2020-01-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 08 January 2020 at 17:14:11, Rowland penny via Dng wrote: > On 08/01/2020 16:02, goli...@devuan.org wrote: > > phenix is the correct spelling and has been since jessie. ;) The > > French do it differently. :D > > No, the Americans cannot spell correctly, it is Pheonix in English

Re: [DNG] Identifying or rsetting a microsd card

2019-12-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 December 2019 at 22:38:26, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I have an sd card that used to be in an android phone. > My usual tools tell me very little: > > root@midwinter:~# lsblk --fs /dev/sdb > NAME FSTYPE LABEL UUID MOUNTPOINT > sdb > ├─sdb1 > └─sdb2 > > root@midwinter:~# fdisk -l

Re: [DNG] Beowulf images for RPi3+?

2019-08-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 22 August 2019 at 12:53:06, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote: > hi all! > > Could somebody please point me to where I can download the latest image of > beowulf for RaspberryPi 3+ ? I searched the webpage, but did not find a > hint :( I didn't think there were any download images of Beowulf

Re: [DNG] Identifying an installed physical hard drive without damage

2019-08-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 11 August 2019 at 14:37:09, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I do not know which of the hard drives on my machine is /dev/sdb/ ... > Or is there some completely different way of accomplishing what I want? # hdparm -i /dev/sdb It'll tell you the drive type and the serial number, which should

Re: [DNG] simple-netaid from scratch

2019-06-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 11 June 2019 at 20:40:09, Steve Litt wrote: > It's funny. So many times people advocate jumping through hoops to save > a millisecond in a program operated by and therefore bottlenecked by a > 100wpm typist. 100wpm is 500 keystrokes per minute, If I may pick a nit, I think it makes

Re: [DNG] backups from ext4 to ntfs - extended attributes and access control lists

2019-05-28 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 29 May 2019 at 00:11:55, Joel Roth via Dng wrote: > Hi, > > I've been backing up my root ext4 filesystem to ntfs for some time, Depending on the purpose of your backup, this may be a poor choice of target file system. > gettings errors from rsync about failing to copy extended

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 23 May 2019 at 20:55:38, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting Antony Stone (antony.st...@devuan.open.source.it): > > PS: Please do not set "Reply-to" on list emails. > > Actually, _that_ use of the header was harmless (albeit, um, pointless). > Josef had: > &g

Re: [DNG] Devuan AMI

2019-05-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 21 May 2019 at 03:34:55, Josef Grosch via Dng wrote: > Greetings, > > Is there a community Devuan AMI out there? Sorry, what's AMI in this context? To me it generally means Asterisk Manager Interface, but that can't be what you're asking about... > If so, has anyone used it if

Re: [DNG] Please, inform users about the current 'health' of Devuan.

2019-04-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 19 April 2019 at 12:34:46, aitor_czr wrote: > On 19/4/19 12:20, aitor_czr wrote: > > as well as a replacement to sysvinit [*] > > Runit, s6, OpenRC or whatever you want :) > > Aitor. > > [*] replacement of..., better said? "replacement for" IMHO. Antony. -- "I estimate there's a

Re: [DNG] [SPAM] Re: Way forward

2019-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 14 April 2019 at 10:39:34, aitor_czr wrote: > On 14/4/19 10:30, chillfan--- via Dng wrote: > > About corporations: > > > > If they are that interested in Devuan (and yes I'm repeating myself) they > > should put some dedicated maintainers our way so we can remove all of > >

Re: [DNG] Way forward

2019-04-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 12 April 2019 at 00:53:40, Steve Litt wrote: > I suggest we pass the following resolution: > > === > At Devuan we prioritize benefits to individual users over benefits to > corporations. Within the overarching umbrella of delivering >

Re: [DNG] The 1st Devuan conference kicks off tomorrow afternoon!

2019-04-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 07 April 2019 at 14:06:56, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Would like to read news about the conference. Did it make a difference > in the world of Linux or not? Was the message about the advantages of > modularity understood/accepted? What about init choice freedom? I'd be interested

Re: [DNG] What you saw on devuan.org yesterday was an April's fools joke

2019-04-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 02 April 2019 at 18:46:28, Mike Bird wrote: > On Tue April 2 2019 07:30:58 Jaromil wrote: > > There was no break-in on any part of Devuan's infrastructure on 1st > > April. This was the most skillfull prank I've witnessed in my life. > > You are easily impressed. And you double down

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 22:52:34, Mike Bird wrote: > None of the other core team members have commented on this fiasco. > I look forward to hearing that they have taken appropriate action. What, in your opinion, would be "appropriate"? Antony. -- #define SIX 1+5 #define NINE 8+1 int

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 22:12:45, Mike Bird wrote: > An email claiming it was all a joke does nothing to prove the system > secure even if it happens to be true. It doesn't prove it to be secure, no, but it confirms that it's no less secure than it was before the joke was perpetrated. > It

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 21:27:25, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 12:18:53 Antony Stone wrote: > > If this incident has made you distrust the Devuan project, you're > > probably better off using a different distro. > > Are you a sysadmin? Yes. > Are you respon

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 21:15:13, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 11:51:46 Antony Stone wrote: > > So, you did not believe one of the primary project contributors when he > > admits to having created the hoax? > > He has proven himself unworthy of trust. No, he's

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 20:39:27, Mike Bird wrote: > On Mon April 1 2019 11:12:34 Antony Stone wrote: > > On Monday 01 April 2019 at 20:05:11, Mike Bird wrote: > > Which part of the following did you not understand? > > The post was easy to understand. > > It may b

Re: [DNG] Fwd: April's fools mess

2019-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 01 April 2019 at 20:05:11, Mike Bird wrote: > This attack... It was not an attack. > Any security lapse is serious. It was not a security lapse. > Claiming the incident was not serious does not make it less so, However, admitting that it was a (possibly misguided) April Fool's

Re: [DNG] dbus [was: Re: logging uses of machine-id]

2019-03-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 13:41:44, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi Anthony, > > On 12/3/19 13:35, Antony Stone wrote: > > If that's a serious comment, what is evil/wrong with (lib)dbus? > > One of the premises of the devuan project was (i thought): no more > wraps, please. S

[DNG] dbus [was: Re: logging uses of machine-id]

2019-03-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 12 March 2019 at 13:07:08, aitor_czr wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/3/19 9:25, KatolaZ wrote: > > Again, this is pretty pointless: just look for reverse-deps on libdbus > > and you'll find the answers you are looking for. > > > > /var/lib/dbus/machine-id is read by anyting that opens a dbus

Re: [DNG] new freedesktop "standard": /etc/machine-id

2019-03-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 09 March 2019 at 14:21:30, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 09/03/19 at 14:04, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote: > >> my id is 0x007f0101 > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> my id is 0x007f0101 > >> > >> [...] > >> > >> my id is 0x007f0101 > > > > using the `hostid` command, I have (Devuan ASCII): > >

Re: [DNG] Request for testing of slim/experimental

2019-03-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 07 March 2019 at 13:27:10, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Mar 07, 2019 at 09:43:05AM +1100, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: > > > > Does anyone else have bogus 'w'/'last' reports? > > How does one obtain 'w'/'last' reports? 1. Type "w"; you should get something like: # w 12:55:35

Re: [DNG] gpt boot on bios machine

2019-03-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 02 March 2019 at 22:06:51, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Trying to enable booting from the 4.7T drive, which is GPT partitioned. > Installing for i386-pc platform. That seems like a bizarre (and unlikely to work) combination to me. What sort of machine are you starting from which needs

Re: [DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?

2019-02-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 25 February 2019 at 00:58:31, Gregory Nowak wrote: > On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 03:56:33PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, > > therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop. > > Uhhhm, no, it doesn't.

[DNG] Current status of Gnome desktop?

2019-02-24 Thread Antony Stone
Hi. I need to set up a machine for someone with Orca for speech output, therefore it needs to run the Gnome desktop. I'd very much prefer to do this without systemd if I can. Therefore I'm wondering what the current status of doing this on Devuan (preferably Ascii) is.

Re: [DNG] ..should we set up our own usage policy wizard script?, was: OpenSSH: delay on beowulf

2019-02-11 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 11 February 2019 at 10:51:09, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 10/02/2019 à 18:19, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > >> There's nothing in the logs. It just takes verry long to start. > > Tried to set LogLevel in sshd_config? > > or launch sshd with the -d option ? Maybe run wireshark at

Re: [DNG] nvidia driver?

2019-01-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 31 January 2019 at 15:49:25, hal wrote: > On 1/31/19 8:44 AM, Antony Stone wrote: > > What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some > > problem when the machine turns out to be running Devuan and not Debian? > > Yeah, my concern is that ad

Re: [DNG] nvidia driver?

2019-01-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 31 January 2019 at 15:38:13, hal wrote: > Is there an established way to get an Nvidia driver installed on Devuan? > I've tried googling it but just end up getting debian info. What happens if you try following that info? Do you run into some problem when the machine turns out to

Re: [DNG] Proposed or proposed-updates

2019-01-04 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 04 January 2019 at 11:37:21, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > On 04-01-19 11:32, KatolaZ wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 04, 2019 at 11:21:58AM +0100, i...@smallinnovations.nl wrote: > >> On https://devuan.org/os/etc/apt/sources.list for adding the proposed > >> repo advise is: > >> >

Re: [DNG] IceCat

2018-12-26 Thread Antony Stone
Argh. Sending to the list this time. Please don't set "Reply-to" on list emails. Antony. On Wednesday 26 December 2018 at 00:23:37, chillfan via Dng wrote: > Spam detection software, running on the system "tupac3.dyne.org", > has identified this incoming email as possible spam. > 2.3

Re: [DNG] /etc/aliases

2018-12-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 12 December 2018 at 13:18:35, Haines Brown wrote: > In debian I had the file /etc/aliases with more or less standard > entries, but don't know how it got there (I didn't run sendmail or > procmail, but did run exim4). I now see that the file is missing in > devuan ASCII (where I also

Re: [DNG] Devuan for Raspberry Pi fried SD CARD.

2018-12-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 05 December 2018 at 17:41:22, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Further Optimization: > > Is it possible to configure Devuan on Raspberry Pi 3B+, so that, > bash_history, settings pertaining to bash, and other user > configuration files from being updated every time such an application > is

Re: [DNG] [OT] The End of Trust

2018-12-04 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 04 December 2018 at 12:09:42, Andres Suarez wrote: > It's just becoming more open and cynic. My cellphone is already turning > my private OFFLINE conversations into ad-topics. More detail / explanation please? Antony. > The thing is, in this times (and what follows) there's some

Re: [DNG] Devuan on a Purism

2018-11-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 02 November 2018 at 23:10:48, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 02/11/18 at 13:36, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > Uness there is already a desktop environment adapted to the needs of > > mobile touch devices. > > > > Or they provide it. Unless they rely on systemd, of course. > >

Re: [DNG] "Sloppy" backports

2018-10-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 31 October 2018 at 23:59:33, taii...@gmx.com wrote: > What do they mean by sloppy? https://backports.debian.org/Instructions/#index4h2 Antony. -- I bought a book about anti-gravity. The reviews say you can't put it down. Please

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 17:37:14, Bruce Ferrell wrote: > On 10/17/18 8:24 AM, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > > On 17-10-18 15:14, Edward Bartolo wrote: > >> Why doesn't Devuan edit sysvinit to use systemd's unit files instead > >> of scripts? That would bypass the entire

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] Debian Buster release to partially drop non-systemd support

2018-10-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 17 October 2018 at 15:54:11, Daniel Taylor wrote: > I am becoming convinced that the proper course of attack is to reimplement > all the systemd functions in the Unix paradigm. a) I seriously doubt that that is possible, without effectively just re-writing systemd b) systemd's

Re: [DNG] What's the latest stable version?

2018-10-13 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 13 October 2018 at 21:49:30, Steve Litt wrote: > Hi all, > > What's the latest stable version of Devuan? I'm going to set up a test > VM to test runit on Devuan. "Devuan’s stable release is now 2.0.0 ASCII." https://devuan.org/ I'm surprised to see *you* ask a question like this,

Re: [DNG] Weird network issue - slow to resolve IPs

2018-10-12 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 13 October 2018 at 00:26:04, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting goli...@dyne.org: > > >Disabling IPv6 can be done with adding in /etc/sysctl.conf: > > > > > >net.ipv6.conf.all.disable_ipv6 = 1 > > > > > >and executing sysctl -p or reboot > > > Well, might make it really difficult to use

Re: [DNG] Better late than never

2018-09-19 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 19 September 2018 at 13:01:44, m712 wrote: > I'd prefer for it to reconnect, but only to known networks, of course. That > way I can read news in the morning at home, close the lid, go to work and > start working without fiddling with the network settings. From my point of view a

Re: [DNG] How to test the backend of simple-netaid

2018-09-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 07 September 2018 at 17:59:39, Edward Bartolo wrote: > On 07/09/2018, aitor_czr wrote: > > El 07/09/18 a las 12:00, Edward Bartolo escribió: > >> Aitor wrote: > >> "I spent a lot of time downgrading the frontend from Gtk3 to Gtk2, > >> because of the general preference in favor of this

Re: [DNG] Can't register to forum dev1galaxy.org

2018-09-07 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 07 September 2018 at 14:12:50, Vorwald Giesser wrote: > Hi, > > I tried to register at https://dev1galaxy.org/ > > There is a field titled "Are you human or robot?" What question did you get and what answer did you enter? > Checking if this is requested by a real person and not an

Re: [DNG] Reply-To in this list

2018-09-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 01 September 2018 at 17:21:39, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sat, Sep 01, 2018 at 03:27:59PM +0200, J. Fahrner wrote: > > Hi, > > my spam blocking rules don't allow a reply-to address to freemail > > addresses. Today I received a message from this list with a gmail.com > > replyto address

Re: [DNG] Reply-To in this list

2018-09-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 01 September 2018 at 15:54:49, J. Fahrner wrote: > Am 2018-09-01 15:35, schrieb Antony Stone: > > I also regard it as very unfriendly for people posting to a list to set a > > reply-to header of anything other than the list address (which is > > redunda

Re: [DNG] Reply-To in this list

2018-09-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 01 September 2018 at 15:27:59, J. Fahrner wrote: > Hi, > my spam blocking rules don't allow a reply-to address to freemail > addresses. Today I received a message from this list with a gmail.com > replyto address (which was rejected). Sounds like you should prefix your blocking rules

Re: [DNG] Devuan 1.0 Installation Problem

2018-08-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 24 August 2018 at 00:30:01, David Hoff Jr wrote: > I am trying to install Devuan 1.0 32 bit with the net install ISO. The > install goes fine until I reach the option to choose a repository. > There are 3 options and they all cause an installation failure. Can you be more specific

Re: [DNG] Debian blocks latest Intel microcode update

2018-08-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 22 August 2018 at 23:32:28, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Don Wright - 22.08.18, 21:56: > > El Reg has [1]published a disagreement between a Debian maintainer and > > Intel over changes to license terms in the latest CPU microcode > > updates. The added terms (see comments) appear to

Re: [DNG] Devuan on Panasonic FZ-G1

2018-08-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 21 August 2018 at 22:46:14, Bruce Perens wrote: > I put Devuan Which version? > on my usual travel laptop Do, or did, you have any other O/S installed on it? If so, what? > a Panasonic FZ-G1 What's the sound chip for one of those? > Everything works but the sound. Pulseaudio is

Re: [DNG] Git and git.devuan.org - solved

2018-08-16 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 16 August 2018 at 22:04:18, Rowland Penny wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 22:56:29 +0300 Lars Noodén wrote: > > On 08/16/2018 09:04 PM, Stefan Krusche wrote: > > > > The staging was the part I missed. It wasn't clear from the > > "git-commit" manual page at all that "git-add" is not

Re: [DNG] Mozilla and cloudflare to hijack all your DNS requests - for your own good of course

2018-08-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 07 August 2018 at 22:27:25, Rick Moen wrote: > Quoting taii...@gmx.com (taii...@gmx.com): > > Cloudflare is such an incredibly obvious intelligence agency ploy to > > gather data but no one talks about this. > > > >

Re: [DNG] running script on eudev event

2018-08-06 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 06 August 2018 at 11:42:58, aitor_czr wrote: > El 06/08/18 a las 10:24, aitor_czr escribió: > > |ACTION=="add", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo "message" >> log_file| > || > ||ACTION=="add", RUN+="/bin/sh -c 'echo "message" >> log_file |'" > > The line was incomplete :) I am very confused by

Re: [DNG] running script on eudev event

2018-08-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 August 2018 at 20:24:30, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On 05/08/2018 at 16:29, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > I am struggling to understand how to run a script automatically upon > > plugging a USB keyboard. > > I know this issue is not directly related to Devuan, but I

Re: [DNG] running script on eudev event

2018-08-05 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 05 August 2018 at 16:29:05, Antonio Trkdz.tab wrote: > I created the following rule as /etc/udev/rules.d/90-usb-keyboard.rules: > ATTRS{idVendor}=="", ATTRS{idProduct}=="", ACTION=="add", > RUN+="/full/path_to/restore_space_as_modifier.sh" > and reloaded eudev (I am on ASCII).

Re: [DNG] jessie MySQL -> ascii MariaDB

2018-07-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 30 July 2018 at 13:45:26, Alexander Bochmann wrote: > Hi, > > I recently updated an old (former) Debian system from Devuan > jessie to ascii. > > As it turns out, its MySQL database still had a root password > in the (very) old format, which isn't accepted by MariaDB. The > upgrade

Re: [DNG] Linux Without systemd: Why You Should Use Devuan, the Debian Fork

2018-07-26 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 26 July 2018 at 17:16:56, Эльбрус Кондратьев wrote: > It's called 'herd behavior'. Someone told them that systemd constituted > 'the way to go'. Nevermind if that way results irrational. Oh well, at least it wasn't Hurd behaviour, otherwise we wouldn't have an Operating System at

Re: [DNG] the azeri project is underway. education for programming children with devuan

2018-07-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 25 July 2018 at 23:06:14, Carl Fink wrote: > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 09:15:39PM +0200, Basati wrote: > > > I've already named it: azeri (in Basque it means fox, children will need > > the skills of a fox for this) > > "Azeri" means "A Turkic people of Central Asia, native to

Re: [DNG] I need your help or another developer's help with the project devuan with the children

2018-07-22 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 22 July 2018 at 17:17:43, wirelessd...@gmail.com wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2018, at 23:17, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > > Doesn't Raspberry pi normally boot from the microSD card it uses for its > > main file system? USB sticks are generally cheaper for the same capacity, and some people

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-17 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 17 July 2018 at 19:20:08, goli...@dyne.org wrote: > On 2018-07-17 12:04, spiralofhope wrote: > > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 01:52:53 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 at 15:16:27 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > > > > > > > Jimmy, you've just won a free procmail trip to

Re: [DNG] Unswapping interface namesRe: (WAS: what has gone wrong with networking in ascii?

2018-07-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 15 July 2018 at 22:03:23, Hendrik Boom wrote: > I got all local services, includig wifi, to work. > > The last holdout seems to have been /etc/ppp/peers/dsl-provider > > It would have been fouond with one more *: /etc/*/*/* > If this message gets out, it worked. Well done :)

Re: [DNG] 1,000(?) eyes security Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 22:53:19, Fungal-net wrote: > On July 9, 2018 11:35 PM, Antony Stone wrote: > > > > > > Quite a number of security holes have been discovered in versions of MS > > Windows over the years, and I'm pretty certain that the vast majority &g

Re: [DNG] 1,000(?) eyes security Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 22:10:03, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 01:12:58AM +1000, terryc wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:48:34 +0200 Alessandro Selli wrote: > > > "Since the beginning of the git era (the 2.6.11 release in 2005), a > > > total of 15,637 developers have

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 16:10:02, Alessandro Selli wrote: > Actually the Linux kernel is the most scrutinized and secure piece of > software that's around. Interesting claim. Citation/s? Antony. -- Don't procrastinate - put it off until tomorrow.

Re: [DNG] Troll Alert Re: A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 13:13:55, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I was told this group has enemies, Well, at least we've now clearly identified one of them. > bye, bye. Thank $deity for that. Antony. -- Pavlov is in the pub enjoying a pint. The barman rings for last orders, and Pavlov jumps up

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 12:53:01, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/09/2018 03:22 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > > > > I guess we need to calm down a bit here? Martin expressed his > > view. You Jimmy expressed yours, and nobody asked you to get/stay out > > of the way. I presume you should give to the

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 13:02:23, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > what I know is out there for all to read. So give us some URLs to what you have already found. Or are you just trying to waste our time? Antony. -- The first fifty percent of an engineering project takes ninety percent of the time,

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 12:42:40, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 07/09/2018 03:16 AM, KatolaZ wrote: > > > > There are lots of people out there who understand a lot more about the > > Linux kernel than many of us here. I simply decided to trust them, > > collectively, because I know that nobody can

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-09 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 09:53:06, KatolaZ wrote: > On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 01:17:58AM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > [cut] > > > > Something way over my head. > > > Anybody friends with Klaus Knopper? Or has other sources for help? > > > Maybe someone fr

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Monday 09 July 2018 at 00:52:48, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > I don't think Linus is trying to hide anything, he just can't talk about > a backdoor and will deny a backdoor if you ask him about one. If there is a backdoor, and he denies it, then he's hiding something. If he's not hiding anything,

Re: [DNG] A Devuan kernel?

2018-07-08 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 07 July 2018 at 14:03:33, Alessandro Selli wrote: > On Fri, 6 Jul 2018 at 10:52:20 -0700 Jimmy Johnson wrote: > > > Good sources Who / where? > > tell me we need our own kernel, > > Why? What's wrong with the available ones? > > > Alessandro Antony. -- "Measuring average

Re: [DNG] Devuan ASCII 32bit images

2018-06-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 20 June 2018 at 16:27:19, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 12:21:21 +0200, Adam wrote in message > > <20180620102121.flczbaznhl3mh...@angband.pl>: > > On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 07:09:12AM +0200, aitor_czr wrote: > > > El 20/06/18 a las 02:16, Ozi Traveller escribió: > > > >

Re: [DNG] Systemd introduces "Portable Services"

2018-05-31 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 31 May 2018 at 18:29:24, Mark Rousell wrote: > And how far from SystemdOS are we? 2 years, IMO. Oh, and I think they'll drop the 'd' from the name. Antony. -- "Measuring average network latency is about as useful as measuring the mean temperature of patients in a hospital." -

Re: [DNG] Ubuntu w/out systemd?

2018-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 14 April 2018 at 16:49:35, Jimmy Johnson wrote: > On 04/10/2018 02:37 PM, chillfan wrote: > > What's the TLDR on TDE? Is it less encumbered with systemd than > > KDE/Plasma? > > Sorry, I don't know what TLDR means? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tldr Antony. -- This email was

Re: [DNG] Unable to Install

2018-04-14 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 14 April 2018 at 12:46:26, Bastiaan van den Berg wrote: > in my experience, 9 out of 10 times 'unable to use USB stick for booting' > is just partition layout (partition not starting on 4MB interval or wrong > type/flags) How can that happen when you download an ISO image and put it

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-04-01 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 01 April 2018 at 16:13:10, aitor_czr wrote: > On 31/03/18 20:54, Rick Moen wrote: > > > Yes, and your point is? > > My point of view, you mean? > > By downloading CentOS software, you acknowledge that you understand all > of the following: CentOS software and technical information may

Re: [DNG] Mozilla is at it again - Firefox nightly sends all your hostname lookups to cloudflare

2018-03-30 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 30 March 2018 at 21:39:14, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:28:00AM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > > Here's why I wouldn't use Palemoon if it were the last browser on earth: > > > > https://github.com/jasperla/openbsd-wip/issues/86 > > Is there another name that palemoon

Re: [DNG] systemd files

2018-03-02 Thread Antony Stone
On Friday 02 March 2018 at 11:26:39, KatolaZ wrote: > Most of those "alarming" files are just systemd units files, put there > by daemons/packages/utilities who "also" support systemd in a way or > another. So they are not alarming but just *totally* *harmless* if you > don't have a running

Re: [DNG] Whitelisting?

2018-02-25 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 25 February 2018 at 23:17:40, info at smallinnovations dot nl wrote: > Looking at the recent emails from throwaway mail addresses is it a idea > to moderate all mail except the addresses that are whitelisted? It is > not that hard to recognize someones style of writing and ditch

Re: [DNG] Official devuan works on raspberry pi 3 B.

2018-01-23 Thread Antony Stone
On Wednesday 24 January 2018 at 01:09:39, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Worked like a charm. Now I have a very minimal text console. I know > where to go from here. My wife has commandeered the HDMI television for > the evening. I'll get on with it tomorrow morning. > > Probably start with the

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3

2018-01-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 22:19:55, Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Sun, Jan 21, 2018 at 08:39:18PM +0100, Antony Stone wrote: > > On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 20:32:14, Hendrik Boom wrote: > > > Now I get to wonder which Debian release the current Raspbian is based > > &g

Re: [DNG] raspberry pi 3

2018-01-21 Thread Antony Stone
On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 20:32:14, Hendrik Boom wrote: > Now I get to wonder which Debian release the current Raspbian is based on, > so I can guess which Devuan release to migrate to. I thought they were all pretty well labelled? The "current" Raspbian

Re: [DNG] [devuan-dev] RFC: Draft call to action for interested users to test elogind/policykit1 with various desktop environments

2018-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Saturday 20 January 2018 at 13:17:01, Edward Bartolo wrote: > Where are these virtual machine images? Are they for Qemu? What VM images are you referring to? Which posting are you replying to? I've not seen any postings here pointing or referring to VM images... Antony. -- I conclude

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