On Tue, 2021-11-09 at 01:56 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> The logic is still the same. I need a guaranteed place on the root
> partition to find the programs necessary to mount all the other
> partitions, or else I'll need to run an initramfs.
Been following this debate. Admit that a few years ag
On Sat, 2021-03-27 at 08:30 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> And now you're suggesting Devuan put that all at risk to take a stand
> on RMS. Well you know what? No distro should get involved with
> politics, and this RMS thing *is* politics. It cost Mint plenty of
> users when they said supporters of Isr
On Fri, 2021-03-26 at 15:46 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
>
> I'd suggest nobody sign anything, and nobody respond to this email.
>
> If you believe that Stallman was removed, shunned and criticized
> because of guilt by association, then it's not much of a stretch to
> believe that you will suffer th
On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 22:21 +0200, d...@d404.nl wrote:
>
> It is indeed off topic so i will keep it short: show me a philosophy
> of
> life or religion which has not been abused by a power hungry
> totalitarian dictator or political system.
Been at it for a Century now, find ONE attempt you would
On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 09:53 +0300, Dimitris via Dng wrote:
> On 8/7/20 12:36 AM, marc wrote:
> > People being easily identified and
> > tracked in real life is something that strengthens authoritarian
> > regimes
> > (whether fascist or communist) as well coercive corporate
> > interests.
>
> th
On Thu, 2020-07-16 at 11:35 +0100, fraser kendall wrote:
> I have just done the stupidest thing. I was freeing up (rm -rf) space
> on what I thought was a storage directory (/srv), but I have now just
> discovered that it contained a critical qemu image. The image is a W7
> VM and is still runnin
On Wed, 2020-04-08 at 14:07 -0700, spiralofhope wrote:
> As an aside, gab.com has been working on its own alternative, but they
> haven't released any details (or source code) and I wouldn't be
> surprised if it became a paid service for significant use.
They have already said it will be a paid se
On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 21:45 +, Rainer Weikusat via Dng wrote:
> - the sole purpose of this text is for the amusement of people who
> ever
> had to find a (preferably simple) solution for a complicated problem
> -
>
> Problem I had to deal with since yesterday: Some Debian 10 system (use
> of
On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 20:21 +, Simon Hobson wrote:
> Dan Purgert wrote:
>
> > It's certainly useful in a "campus" environment, where you're quite
> > likely at a different computer all the time (i.e. grabbing whatever
> > is
> > free in the computer lab to print your final paper).
>
> Isn't
On Thu, 2020-03-12 at 11:14 +, Rowland penny via Dng wrote:
>
> Here we go again, reinventing the wheel ;-)
>
> Windows has something similar, they call it roaming profiles and that
> has its problems.
It isn't exactly reinventing the wheel, it is more like porting the
wheel. The fact Wind
On Thu, 2019-11-14 at 22:03 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
> The piece of information I couldn't find in your (John Morris') data
> is
> how much of the 160GiB is consumed with data. It makes a big
> difference.
They have had most of their space written to at this point. The s
On Wed, 2019-11-13 at 04:06 -0800, Bruce Ferrell wrote:
> Well, I was thinking more along the lines of the "early" failure rate
> for SSD and not so much the convenience of a thing as small as my baby
> finger nail with insane amounts of
> storage. I have active and still in use rotational media
On Wed, 2019-06-12 at 08:40 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>
> More precisely, sizeof(foo) is the spacing of consecutive elements of
> type foo.
Most importantly for most people, malloc(sizeof(foo)*n) must not cause
unexpected things like a kaboom.
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On Mon, 2019-04-15 at 22:37 +, Antonio Volpicelli via Dng wrote:
> Hi devuaners,
>
> the version of MATE desktop 1.22 is available on hezeh (remember is
> experimental)
>
Not having any luck. I finally bit the bullet and went up from Jessie
to ASCII. On Jessie I rebuilt the three packages
On Tue, 2019-04-02 at 09:21 +0200, marc...@welz.org.za wrote:
> Weirdly enough I trust devuan a bit more after this incident:
Yup, same here. A good prank on Apr 1 is perfectly in keeping with the
finest UNIX traditions. It is the humorless scolds who should be
suspected.
Seeing the poo flingi
On Wed, 2018-03-28 at 02:42 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> More interesting is the timing between this addition and the DNC hack, where
> the files are known to have been saved to an USB pen drive. This would
> explain the weird inclusion of refer[r]er, which has no obvious legitimate
> use but wo
On Wed, 2018-02-28 at 00:03 -0500, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
The first part of your post is correct. But in the interest of avoiding
misinformation I gotta correct the record on this paragraph.
> SystemD systems take minutes to boot even without the bogus "start/stop
> job running for *thing*" whe
On Mon, 2017-10-23 at 17:06 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> I've read previously on this list that secureboot doesn't prevent
> booting from a usb key... Or did I misunderstood?
Correct, so long as the boot loader on the USB key is signed by a key
the system trusts. And you didn't disable boot
On Tue, 2017-10-24 at 09:01 +0200, marc wrote:
> Secureboot is designed for them, not for you. You might come
> up with a really exotic use case, where it might help you. But
> if you look at it carefully enough, it relies on secureboot
> redefining root to something weaker than what we want, and
On Tue, 2017-10-10 at 01:49 +0200, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> By the manual, the correct solution in configuring Grub as to pass the
> kernel these parameters:
>
> biosdevname=0 net.ifnames=0
Those fix similar problems but not exactly the same ones. The udev
persistent rules get you when you m
On Sat, 2017-10-07 at 10:06 -0300, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:
> On Sat, 7 Oct 2017 13:51:02 +0100
> Simon Hobson wrote:
>
> > The topic was discussed to death not long ago and the consensus seemed to
> > be that "there is no solution that works for everyone" ! As Jochen says,
> > for "simple"
On Tue, 2017-09-26 at 03:42 -0400, taii...@gmx.com wrote:
> Why not use the gnome 2 fork MATE?
Why not? It mostly works out of the box, I'm using it now. If you
install it onto a laptop you won't have working power management because
of dependencies on systemd. Google can give you the details b
On Thu, 2017-09-21 at 18:12 +0200, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> Excuse me for interrupting this conversation, but, what is the point
> of making sure a browser is secure knowing there is a complete HIDDEN
> OS running all the time? I have no idea what it does and what
> functions it offers to the outsi
On Thu, 2017-08-03 at 03:31 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2017 10:36:50 -0300
> >
> > EterTICs GNU/Linux is a GNU/Linux distribution aimed for community
> > radios of Latinamerica. His goal is to be 100% libre and it has all
> > the software needed to setup a "libre" radio including Rad
At the risk of lowering the signal to noise on this list even more, I'd
like to note that about seven minutes before this new nym posted here it
posted the same text to the Fedora users list. There was exactly one
reply. I won't spoil it, go look it up because it worked.
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On Fri, 2017-07-21 at 16:25 -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> Dragan FOSS wrote:
> >I think it's best to drop 32-bit support at all... it's such a waste of
> >time and resources.
>
>
> As long as you're pruning, kill x64 as well, because the majority of
> computers sold are using ARM architecture and r
On Sat, 2017-06-24 at 11:08 +0200, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Anyway I think there's a simple method to live without the
> initramfs. Everything which is done from initramfs could be done the
> same way from a disk partition, which might make it easier to debug:
> have a /os directory containing
On Sat, 2017-06-24 at 11:04 -0500, Don Wright wrote:
> Just teleport into the datacenter on the other side of the planet, or the
> office building where your after-hours key card doesn't work because all
> cards were cancelled following the alleged burglary last week*, or do some
> other Herculean
On Fri, 2017-06-23 at 16:41 +0200, Antony Stone wrote:
> https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/TheCaseForTheUsrMerge/ if
> you want to start feeling annoyed as well as surprised.
Dunno, that one actually makes a lot of sense. Applying the logic of
Chesterton's Fence here seems sound
On Fri, 2017-03-03 at 10:09 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> What default cryptographic identity would it use?
>
> -- hendrik
My notion is an email client should look for a keyring and if it can't
find one it should default to creating a basic key and publishing it to
one or more keyservers. Imagin
On Fri, 2016-06-24 at 15:11 -0400, Steve Litt wrote:
> Stuff like this is the reason I soon abandoned K&R as a learning
> tool,
> and used it only to determine the official behavior of C.
>
> Bit stuffing, sliding and masking were a tool of the assembly
> programmer
> back when your RAM could be c
On Tue, 2016-06-07 at 14:35 +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
> ..11 years with Groklaw.net has thaught me to be a little harsher;
> you cannot "port" a program written under one license (MIT), under
> another license, unless that first license has language that allows
> such "relicensing" under other
On Sat, 2016-05-21 at 16:43 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> Yay curl|bash. I'd say recommending such a command as their
> installation
> method means their view on security is so bad that no one should
> touch them
> with a $LENGTH pole.
At least as safe as a package, both are taking executable co
On Wed, 2016-05-04 at 21:41 +0100, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote:
> Malloc() is very simple: You ask for memory and get it. The negative
> side
> of that simplicity is that if you're out of memory (and that happens
> occasionally if a server is run close to capacity) then processes die
> and/or become
On Sat, 2016-01-30 at 17:03 +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> +1
> seems like kindergarten in here
Think this is the best response yet in this overlong thread. Somebody
said something kinda childish and offtopic and a polite corrective
nudge to be a bit more adult was called for and should have end
On Wed, 2015-11-25 at 19:22 +, Dave Turner wrote:
> Now I am trying my hand at Android development I find udev to be truly
> vile. What idiot decided that you have to list your device in the
> /etc/udev/rules.d/51-android.rules file before you can connect to it?
> The file is already 13.7kB
On Thu, 2015-08-20 at 07:10 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> As it is, the frontend can connect on user request. The user can run
> the frontend application, click connect and terminate the application
> and the connection will continue to be functional. This is real KISS
> in practice but I can also
On Mon, 2015-08-17 at 06:48 +0100, Edward Bartolo wrote:
> The backends can be integrated into one single executable not to
> clutter the sudoers file and to increase system efficiency.
One suggestion here. Forget sudo and just make the backend suid root
like other system utilities of this type.
On Thu, 2015-06-04 at 02:52 +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 06:18:37PM -0500, John Morris wrote:
> > Non-free software: NO, Firmware: YES. So ixnay on things like the Nvidia
> > drivers but yes on blobs. The reasoning on where to draw the line is
>
On Wed, 2015-06-03 at 12:45 +0100, KatolaZ wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 03, 2015 at 08:37:22PM +1200, Daniel Reurich wrote:
> >
> > I'd like a straw poll on whether we should include non-free firmware
> > in our installers by default.
> >
> My two cents on this point: I would really prefer *not* having an
On Thu, 2015-04-30 at 15:58 +0200, Joerg Reisenweber wrote:
> Poettering clearly understood the implications and outright rejected the
> rationale, by claiming nowadays it wasn't modern anymore to have a small root-
> fs and a separate partition for /usr
He is correct on this point. One should
On Tue, 2015-04-21 at 12:06 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Here are two more reasons for Devuan:
I'd just say more signs that systemd was pushed into production way
early and not new objections to the (widely held to be defective in the
opinion here) design principles themselves. The
On Sat, 2015-03-28 at 10:49 -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> The very strict FSF interpretation is a useful extreme -- much like
> the North Pole is for the idea of north, and absolute zero is for the
> idea of cold. Now north is useful n our compasses, and cold is great
> for beer (free or not),
On Sat, 2015-03-28 at 12:33 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> BTW, I, like many others, find convenient to use e.g. Skype, and I
> would prefer to run it inside a container.
> >Over there, Linux installers are
> > Shareware. All of them. I'm not a priest of St. Ignucius but the idea
> > of th
On Fri, 2015-03-27 at 16:37 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> Hi John,
>
> When I wrote anti-freedom, I considered a stricter definition of
> freedom than GPL, beyond free access to the source and gratuitous
> redistribution, including e.g. the absence of technical lock-in. I won't
> argue
On Sat, 2015-03-21 at 17:04 +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:
> However, the long term policy of Devuan can't be "We hate systemd
> and Lennart Poetering". Instead Devuan should advertize the reasons to
> reject software like systemd, in the form of a set of rules for
> acceptability, in a sensib
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 02:02 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> Yes. I can't speak for others, but I can implement far more cleanly
> designed and reliable solutions using C than other choices. I can
> certainly write "less code" using Python or Perl, but I can do exactly
> the same thing with C by
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 21:09 -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > Besides issues related to Chromium's poor support for privacy features,
> > it also has no real security support.
>
> No comment on the privacy features, but I beg to differ on the security.
> The fact that the Linux build of Chromium runs
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 14:25 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 07:45:22PM +0100, Anto wrote:
> > Hello Everybody,
> >
> > I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will use
> > the re-branded Mozilla products.
> >
> Debian *could* have used the firefox binary di
On Thu, 2015-02-26 at 00:08 -0300, hellekin wrote:
> I'm impressed by all the testing you did. You may want to open some
> issues in the gitlab. That would make a good test suite for the next ISO.
Probably need to go get a Debian jessie cd and see how many of these
problems exist there too. Do
Finally got around to seriously poking around with the Valintines Alpha
release. Very alpha.
Tried a default and an expert mode install, neither prompts for a root
password and even if the option to create a user account is picked no
prompts to actually do it appear. So I just did the basic inst
On Fri, 2015-02-20 at 14:32 -0500, Gravis wrote:
> > RPC had already been solved in a general way by SunRPC (ONCRPC) before
> either GNOME or KDE existed
>
> interesting I'd never read about those until now. however, there was no
> GPL (compatible?) version for Linux (still isn't?) and the intern
On Sun, 2014-12-21 at 19:58 +0200, Vlad wrote:
> Isn't the Debian swirl logo GPL as well, I do not think t will be a problem
> for Devuan to use it?
There is no copyright problem with the image so the GPL isn't a problem,
it is a trademark issue. Please read the trademark guidelines at
debian.org
On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 17:23 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> What can it do in the right? Nothing that can't be done without the TPM
> chip. One of the first things that you learn in computer engineering is
> that anything problem can be solved on software or hardware. The only
> difference is a
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