Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-05 Thread hal
On 9/4/21 03:17, Steve Litt wrote: Bruce Perens via Dng said on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 10:30:06 -0700 Unfortunately there isn't really a good display solution for Linux that does not make use of "direct rendering", in which user-mode code talks directly to the display hardware I'm reminded of

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-04 Thread aitor
Hi, On 4/9/21 16:39, al3xu5 wrote: had to learn how to use xrandr so that I could set up the monitors so they would give my desired configuration and that needs to be entered EVERY time I restart the box! I also like to use lots of desktops and too many of the applications are quite stupid so

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-04 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 9:40 AM al3xu5 wrote: https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=12 > Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:17:11 -0500 - o1bigtenor via Dng : > > > On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:24 AM Steve Litt > > wrote: > > > > > o1bigtenor said on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:19:31 -0500 > > > > > > [...] >

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-04 Thread al3xu5
Sat, 4 Sep 2021 07:17:11 -0500 - o1bigtenor via Dng : > On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:24 AM Steve Litt > wrote: > > > o1bigtenor said on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:19:31 -0500 > > > > [...] > > - I > had to learn how to use xrandr so that I could set up the monitors so > they would give my desired

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-04 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Sat, Sep 4, 2021 at 3:24 AM Steve Litt wrote: > o1bigtenor said on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:19:31 -0500 > > >as I plug the 5th monitor (4k) in I've got uptime down to less than 28 > >hours. > > Duude!!! > > I hereby resign from the conversation. All of my experience is with one > monitor of

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
o1bigtenor said on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 06:19:31 -0500 >as I plug the 5th monitor (4k) in I've got uptime down to less than 28 >hours. Duude!!! I hereby resign from the conversation. All of my experience is with one monitor of less than 4k capabilities. I can't even begin to understand the

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-04 Thread Steve Litt
Bruce Perens via Dng said on Fri, 3 Sep 2021 10:30:06 -0700 >Unfortunately there isn't really a good display solution for Linux >that does not make use of "direct rendering", in which user-mode code >talks directly to the display hardware I'm reminded of writing to the RAM following B800 on DOS

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-03 Thread Bruce Perens via Dng
Unfortunately there isn't really a good display solution for Linux that does not make use of "direct rendering", in which user-mode code talks directly to the display hardware - especially where 3D and video are concerned. It is simply not possible to construct a reliable system in which user-mode

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-03 Thread Tim Wallace via Dng
Yes, the AMD cards are no panacea.  I bought an AMD FirePro W4100 for $260 to drive multiple 4K monitors at the end of 2019, which was not usable as it turned out.  This was not a new card, so should have been supported.  After a ton of great help from the mailing list (tried many, many

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-03 Thread Alexander Brüning via Dng
On Thu, 2021-09-02 at 14:16 -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > My long time mentor in things Linux (described himself as a fossil) is no > longer with us. (He suggested that I strongly consider using Devuan which > I now have on one system.)  > He was of the opinion that Wayland - -

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Sep 3, 2021 at 2:09 AM Steve Litt wrote: > spiralofhope said on Thu, 2 Sep 2021 20:33:35 -0700 > > >On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 > >o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > >> He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function, > >> was really not worth running. > > >

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-03 Thread terryc
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 15:48:08 -0400 Hendrik Boom wrote: > On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 02:16:58PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > My long time mentor in things Linux (described himself as a fossil) > > is no longer with us. (He suggested that I strongly consider using > > Devuan

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-03 Thread Steve Litt
o1bigtenor via Dng said on Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 >Greetings > >My long time mentor in things Linux (described himself as a fossil) is >no longer with us. (He suggested that I strongly consider using Devuan >which I now have on one system.) >He was of the opinion that Wayland - - -

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-03 Thread Steve Litt
spiralofhope said on Thu, 2 Sep 2021 20:33:35 -0700 >On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 >o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > >> He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function, >> was really not worth running.  > >I've been interested in it because of promises of eliminating screen

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-02 Thread spiralofhope
On Thu, 2 Sep 2021 14:16:58 -0500 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function, > was really not worth running.  I've been interested in it because of promises of eliminating screen tearing when watching videos. I don't know if that's been

Re: [DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-02 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Thu, Sep 02, 2021 at 02:16:58PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > My long time mentor in things Linux (described himself as a fossil) is no > longer with us. (He suggested that I strongly consider using Devuan which I > now have on one system.) > He was of the opinion that

[DNG] Information request re: wayland

2021-09-02 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings My long time mentor in things Linux (described himself as a fossil) is no longer with us. (He suggested that I strongly consider using Devuan which I now have on one system.) He was of the opinion that Wayland - - - whatever its exact function, was really not worth running. Yet it is