Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
On 20/12/18 at 15:32, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 00:59:35 +1100, Ralph wrote in message > : > >> There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it, but it's >> documentation claims "kexec is a system call that enables you to >> load and boot into another kernel from the

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-20 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 20/12/2018 à 23:50, Steve Litt a écrit : Didier Kryn wrote:     What's the purpose of kexec ? I see one main: using a Linux session as the bootloader, a bootloader more heavily customizable than Grub. Additionally it saves a few seconds. Are there any other ?         Didier Wow.

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-20 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 15:38:01 +0100 Didier Kryn wrote: >     What's the purpose of kexec ? I see one main: using a Linux > session as the bootloader, a bootloader more heavily customizable > than Grub. Additionally it saves a few seconds. Are there any other ? > >         Didier Wow. Are

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-20 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 20/12/2018 à 16:22, Adam Borowski a écrit : On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:38:01PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote:     What's the purpose of kexec ? I see one main: using a Linux session as the bootloader, a bootloader more heavily customizable than Grub. Additionally it saves a few seconds. Are

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 03:38:01PM +0100, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 20/12/2018 à 15:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : > > On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 00:59:35 +1100, Ralph wrote in message > > : > > > > > There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it, but it's > > > documentation claims "kexec is a

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-20 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 20/12/2018 à 15:32, Arnt Karlsen a écrit : On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 00:59:35 +1100, Ralph wrote in message : There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it, but it's documentation claims "kexec is a system call that enables you to load and boot into another kernel from the currently

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Thu, 20 Dec 2018 00:59:35 +1100, Ralph wrote in message : > There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it, but it's > documentation claims "kexec is a system call that enables you to > load and boot into another kernel from the currently running kernel." > > Maybe it comes with

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-19 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
There is this notion of "kexec boot"; I've never tried it, but it's documentation claims "kexec is a system call that enables you to load and boot into another kernel from the currently running kernel." Maybe it comes with too many ifs and buts to be a viable approach. Ralph. k...@aspodata.se

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-19 Thread karl
Hendrik: > On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:09:29AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > > On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:33:30 +0100 (CET) > > k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > > > > With all this discussion about installing procedures, why do we need > > > to reboot during reboot ? I meant: to reboot during install ? > > >

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-19 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, Dec 19, 2018 at 12:09:29AM -0500, Steve Litt wrote: > On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:33:30 +0100 (CET) > k...@aspodata.se wrote: > > > With all this discussion about installing procedures, why do we need > > to reboot during reboot ? > > > > Couldn't one boot the install media like an initram

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-19 Thread karl
Bruce Perens: > Because you're not necessarily installing the same API. And by API, you mean the system calls that the used kernel make available and the clib used ? Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148 S-742 94

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-19 Thread karl
Steve Litt: ... > I don't ever want to encourage use of initramfs. Down that road lies > Redhat. ... It's a tool in the toolbox, useful sometimes and not necessary sometimes. Regards, /Karl Hammar --- Aspö Data Lilla Aspö 148

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-18 Thread Bruce Perens
Because you're not necessarily installing the same API. ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-18 Thread Steve Litt
On Tue, 18 Dec 2018 23:33:30 +0100 (CET) k...@aspodata.se wrote: > With all this discussion about installing procedures, why do we need > to reboot during reboot ? > > Couldn't one boot the install media like an initram thing and then > pivot_root (or what is used today) the real system and

[DNG] Installing without rebooting

2018-12-18 Thread karl
With all this discussion about installing procedures, why do we need to reboot during reboot ? Couldn't one boot the install media like an initram thing and then pivot_root (or what is used today) the real system and continuing from there... I did some experiments some ten years ago, but run out