Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-04 Thread Franco Lanza
On Sat, Jul 04, 2015 at 03:58:05PM +, Arnt Gulbrandsen wrote: > I recently noticed that the module for plip remains in the kernel, about > twenty years after it was last useful to anyone. Good riddance to that, I Hey! I used the plip module no more than few months ago last time. -- Franco

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-04 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
What Linus means is that at some point the kernel module will have been cleaned up to a point where it no longer offends Linus. At that point the rest of us may assume that it will also not be much of a bother. I recently noticed that the module for plip remains in the kernel, about twenty ye

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-03 Thread Nate Bargmann
* On 2015 03 Jul 15:59 -0500, T.J. Duchene wrote: > Personally, I think that the only solution is the replacement of the package > manager with something more akin to a version manager, where you can have > multiple versions of the same binary package chains with differing > dependencies based on

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-03 Thread Teodoro Santoni
On Thu, Jul 02, 2015 at 06:31:44AM +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > This means that if he will be sooner or later convinced that kdbus is > a good piece of technology to have in the kernel, for one reason or > another, he will merge it overnight, irrespective of the real or > perceived madness and stubborne

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-03 Thread T.J. Duchene
>I think Linus is right when it comes to systemd as an init, but really >that is not the problem. >The real problem is that systemd is not just an init, it is or is >rapidly becoming, a locked in operating system frame work, looking for a >friendly kernel and a desktop environment. >People

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-02 Thread Marlon Nunes
Not really, don´t forget what Linus said about dbus/kdbus: "We don't merge kernel code just because user space was written by a retarded monkey on crack. Kernel code has higher standards..." http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/1506.2/05492.html On 2015-07-02 02:31, KatolaZ wrote: On Wed,

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread Arnt Gulbrandsen
You say that as though persuading Linus of something with little technical merit were easy. Arnt ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread James Powell
: KatolaZ<mailto:kato...@freaknet.org> Sent: ‎7/‎1/‎2015 10:31 PM To: Aldemir Akpinar<mailto:aldemir.akpi...@gmail.com> Cc: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org> Subject: Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 09:21:46PM +0300, Aldemir Akpinar

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jul 01, 2015 at 09:21:46PM +0300, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > It's the second question: > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question?utm_source=feedly1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed > I wouldn't expect any different answer from Linus.

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread James Powell
ated as using a chainsaw to perform open heart surgery. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Laurent Bercot<mailto:ska-de...@skarnet.org> Sent: ‎7/‎1/‎2015 1:01 PM To: dng@lists.dyne.org<mailto:dng@lists.dyne.org> Subject: Re: [DNG] Linus answers a questi

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 07/01/2015 02:21 PM, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: It's the second question: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question?utm_source=feedly1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed I think Linus is right when it comes to systemd as an init, but really

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 01/07/2015 21:17, Martin Steigerwald wrote: Linus describes personality issues around how to handle bug reports. And I think that is one of the main issues I have with some systemd upstream developers as well. The "we are right, you are wrong", "we wont fix this its not our bug", "we created

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread Martin Steigerwald
On Wednesday 01 July 2015 21:21:46 Aldemir Akpinar wrote: > It's the second question: > > http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds > -answers-your-question?utm_source=feedly1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed Linus describes personality issues around how to handle bu

Re: [DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread Laurent Bercot
On 01/07/2015 20:21, Aldemir Akpinar wrote: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question?utm_source=feedly1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed Yes, it can happen to the best of us: even Linus doesn't know there are alternatives to handle services

[DNG] Linus answers a question about systemd

2015-07-01 Thread Aldemir Akpinar
It's the second question: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/15/06/30/0058243/interviews-linus-torvalds-answers-your-question?utm_source=feedly1.0mainlinkanon&utm_medium=feed -- aldemir ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org