[DNG] Question

2020-08-24 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings A friend and mentor in all things Linux was a proponent of Devuan. Sadly he died some months ago so I now have to ask those I don't know possibly stupid questions. I have run Debian systems for some 15 to 18 years (can't remember when I switched from Fedora Core but a long time ago). Ha

Re: [DNG] Question

2020-08-24 Thread Joril via Dng
On 23/08/20 15:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: Greetings A friend and mentor in all things Linux was a proponent of Devuan. Sadly he died some months ago Sorry to hear that :( Have found that devuan 3.0 or Beowulf is the present stable product. Is there a 'testing' equivalent Devuan product?

Re: [DNG] Question

2020-08-25 Thread Ian Zimmerman
On 2020-08-25 08:47, Joril via Dng wrote: > > Have found that devuan 3.0 or Beowulf is the present stable > > product. Is there a 'testing' equivalent Devuan product? > > I believe you are looking for Devuan Chimaera? > See https://devuan.org/os/releases Can you mix releases with the /etc/apt/pr

Re: [DNG] Question

2020-08-25 Thread golinux
On 2020-08-25 16:34, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2020-08-25 08:47, Joril via Dng wrote: > Have found that devuan 3.0 or Beowulf is the present stable > product. Is there a 'testing' equivalent Devuan product? I believe you are looking for Devuan Chimaera? See https://devuan.org/os/releases Can y

Re: [DNG] Question

2020-08-25 Thread golinux
On 2020-08-25 16:42, goli...@devuan.org wrote: On 2020-08-25 16:34, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2020-08-25 08:47, Joril via Dng wrote: > Have found that devuan 3.0 or Beowulf is the present stable > product. Is there a 'testing' equivalent Devuan product? I believe you are looking for Devuan Chim

[DNG] Question on Devuan

2015-12-19 Thread R. W. Rodolico
I've been lurking for a while, and I'm getting close to a decision point. I have been using Debian for well over a decade, but Jessie appears to be too unstable. The two machines I installed it on had issues bad enough that I reverted to Wheezy (reformat/reinstall). Thing is, I mainly deal in serv

Re: [DNG] Question on Devuan

2015-12-21 Thread Linux O'Beardly
Rod, While many here would probably say it's not a good idea to run servers on Devuan until a production release, I am already running it on a number of servers. I have a NAS, a CS 1.6 gaming server, and a couple of application servers all running Devuan without issue. Additionally, I'm running

Re: [DNG] Question on Devuan

2015-12-21 Thread Simon Hobson
Linux O'Beardly wrote: > While many here would probably say it's not a good idea to run servers on > Devuan until a production release, I am already running it on a number of > servers. That's good to know - I need to find time to do some testing myself. > R. W. Rodolico wrote: > BTW, while

Re: [DNG] Question on Devuan

2015-12-21 Thread R. W. Rodolico
Thank you for the information. I'll duplicate a couple of virtuals, do the upgrade and see what happens. Again, thank you for the information. On 12/21/2015 08:12 AM, Linux O'Beardly wrote: > Rod, > > While many here would probably say it's not a good idea to run servers > on Devuan until a pr

Re: [DNG] Question on Devuan

2016-01-05 Thread Simon Hobson
Linux O'Beardly wrote: > While many here would probably say it's not a good idea to run servers on > Devuan until a production release, I am already running it on a number of > servers. That's good to know - I need to find time to do some testing myself. > R. W. Rodolico wrote: > BTW, while

Re: [DNG] Question on Devuan

2016-01-10 Thread Ángel Ramírez Isea
El 2015-12-21 10:58, Simon Hobson escribió: Linux O'Beardly wrote: While many here would probably say it's not a good idea to run servers on Devuan until a production release, I am already running it on a number of servers. That's good to know - I need to find time to do some testing myself

[Dng] Question about properly splitting packages

2015-02-17 Thread Isaac Dunham
Hello, I've got a question about how to split a library package so it works well with multiarch. The source package in question is libsysdev. When properly configured, it installs roughly the following files: /usr/lib/*/libsysdev.so.0.0 (and symlinks) /usr/lib/*/libsysdev.a /usr/lib/*/p

[DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-03 Thread Go Linux
Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there a way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always downloaded what I need from dmo when I first install and then disable it. dmo can really break things if you're not careful. Avidemux is in the dmo repos. The ne

[DNG] Question about Devuan top panel

2017-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Needle
Hi. Just installed the latest 64-bit Devuan. Runs wonderfully. However, the date at the top right of the screen is off. I know I set America/Los Angeles as my region, but the panel isn't honoring this. I've tried to figure out how to fix this, but no luck. Any help? Thanks. -- ---

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Irrwahn
[DISCLAIMER: I'm using Devuan testing (ascii), thus my comments might not be apply to other versions, jessie in particular! (Which is BTW one reason I try to keep silent on DNG, to not disturb the jessie release process. But since no-one has replied to this post so far ...] On Sun, 3 Jan 2016

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Simon Wise
On 05/01/16 00:31, Irrwahn wrote: On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:52:48 + (UTC), Go Linux wrote: Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there a way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always downloaded what I need from dmo when I first install and then disable

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 1/4/16, Irrwahn wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Monday, January 4, 2016, 7:31 AM On Sun, 3 Jan 2016 17:52:48 + (UTC), Go Linux wrote: >> > Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Irrwahn
[Sorry, Golinux, replied to you directly by accident, post was intended to go to the list.] On Mon, 4 Jan 2016 16:53:39 + (UTC), Go Linux wrote: > On Mon, 1/4/16, Irrwahn wrote: >> How do you receive updates and security fixes? > > I generally don't. 'If it works, don't fix it' especially

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Irrwahn
On Tue, 05 Jan 2016 01:22:01 +1100, Simon Wise wrote: > On 05/01/16 00:31, Irrwahn wrote: [ About mixing packages from Debian and Deb-Multimedia. ] [...] > If you only used audio from dmo it was generally ok, but they do not cover a > lot > of audio needs. I guess I have just been lucky then,

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 04/01/16 06:52, Go Linux wrote: > Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there a > way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always > downloaded what I need from dmo when I first install and then disable > it. dmo can really break things if you're not careful

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Go Linux
On Mon, 1/4/16, Daniel Reurich wrote: Subject: Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos To: "Go Linux" , "dng@lists.dyne.org" Date: Monday, January 4, 2016, 4:33 PM On 04/01/16 06:52, Go Linux wrote: > Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is th

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Daniel Reurich
On 05/01/16 11:33, Daniel Reurich wrote: > On 04/01/16 06:52, Go Linux wrote: >> Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there >> a way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always >> downloaded what I need from dmo when I first install and then >> disable it. d

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Simon Wise
On 05/01/16 10:45, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 05/01/16 11:33, Daniel Reurich wrote: On 04/01/16 06:52, Go Linux wrote: Why are you merging the debian, backports and dmo repos? Is there a way to separate them? I have rarely used backports and always downloaded what I need from dmo when I first i

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-04 Thread Simon Wise
On 05/01/16 10:45, Daniel Reurich wrote: Update: I have raised an issue about no longer merging dmo. There are a bunch of other reasons for removing it as well - but I won't discuss them here. Thank you very much for that. Simon ___ Dng mailing lis

Re: [DNG] Question about the merged repos

2016-01-05 Thread dev1fanboy
About backports, I found some issues there Specifically, I had devuan debootstrap installed and upgrading would result in getting a debian version Also, not sure if it's the expected behaviour but when using the devuan backports repo a dist-upgrade would pull in packages from there too On Mond

Re: [DNG] Question about Devuan top panel

2017-04-25 Thread Davide Baldini
You could install the ntp daemon and/or set your hardware clock with 'hwclock'. -- Davide ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglists.dyne.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/dng

[DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-27 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Video Driver, ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 25.2) running xorg-server 2:21.1.3-2+b1. I think my system is reasonab

[DNG] Question about the text editor named medit.

2022-01-04 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Dear All, Upgrading to chimeara removed medit, a text editor I used for writing code and any other plain text document. I could not install it and it seems it has been removed from the repository. Searching online for a recently updated source tarball, I did not find any. It seems it has been aban

[DNG] Question about the text editor named medit.

2022-01-05 Thread Edward Bartolo via Dng
Dear All, Going to packages/debian.org I found other packages similar to medit like bluefish and jedit. I tried jedit first, but its font rendering is aggressive on my aging eyes and resorted to using bluefish which has its font rendering more comparable to medit's. That is the beauty of open sou

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-27 Thread onefang
On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module > version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Video Driver, ABI class: X.Org > Video Driver, version 25.2) run

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-27 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > Greetings > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled for 1.21.1.3, module > > version = 22.0.0, Module class: X.Org Vid

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-27 Thread Ralph Ronnquist
On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 09:24:42PM -0500, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang wrote: > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > > opensource amdgpu drivers (v

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-28 Thread onefang
On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang wrote: > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > Greetings > > > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X graphics card using > > > opensource amdgpu drivers (version compiled fo

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-28 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang > > wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > Greetings > > > > > > > > Running a AMD 3800X with a Radeon RX570X gra

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-28 Thread onefang
On 2022-07-28 07:24:46, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang wrote: > > > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 18:04:26, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > > Gree

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-28 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 7:33 AM onefang wrote: > > On 2022-07-28 07:24:46, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:53 AM onefang > > wrote: > > > > > > On 2022-07-27 21:24:42, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 6:26 PM onefang > > > > wrote: > > > > > > >

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-28 Thread Ludovic Bellière via Dng
That would be an environment variable. It has to be written into a file sourced by your DM, each has their own standard. For KDE/sddm, you can look into /etc/sddm/Xsession to see which file correspond to your system (it's different whether you use bash or zsh or whatever else). Cheers,

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-28 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:44 AM Ludovic Bellière wrote: > > That would be an environment variable. It has to be written into a file > sourced > by your DM, each has their own standard. For KDE/sddm, you can look into > /etc/sddm/Xsession to see which file correspond to your system (it's different

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-28 Thread Ludovic Bellière via Dng
You need to understand how your Desktop environment is being initialized. It is started by the Display Manager, thus inherit whatever environment variable is sourced by the DM. To have the DM be aware of custom variables, it needs to source that information from a file from your home directory. Th

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-29 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: > > You need to understand how your Desktop environment is being initialized. It > is > started by the Display Manager, thus inherit whatever environment variable is > sourced by the DM. To have the DM be aware of custom variables, i

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-29 Thread Ludovic Bellière via Dng
On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, o1bigtenor wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: You need to understand how your Desktop environment is being initialized. It is started by the Display Manager, thus inherit whatever environment variable is sourced by the DM. To have the D

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-29 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:21 AM Ludovic Bellière via Dng wrote: > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, o1bigtenor wrote: > > >On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ludovic Bellière via Dng > > wrote: > >> > >> You need to understand how your Desktop environment is being initialized. > >> It is > >> started by the Di

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-07-29 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:41 AM o1bigtenor wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 29, 2022 at 9:21 AM Ludovic Bellière via Dng > wrote: > > > > On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, o1bigtenor wrote: > > > > >On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 8:23 PM Ludovic Bellière via Dng > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> You need to understand how your Deskt

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-09-03 Thread onefang
For what it's worth I just discovered that xscreensaver now has xscreensaver-systemd, and is running on my Chimaera desktop. "The xscreensaver-systemd program is a helper program to integrate xscreensaver with systemd(1)." I've been having problems with screen blanking / monitor power off recentl

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-09-03 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
On Sat, Sep 3, 2022 at 6:26 AM onefang wrote: > > For what it's worth I just discovered that xscreensaver now has > xscreensaver-systemd, and is running on my Chimaera desktop. "The > xscreensaver-systemd program is a helper program to integrate > xscreensaver with systemd(1)." > I dunno if this

Re: [DNG] Question re: screen blanking and shutoff

2022-09-03 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen via Dng
Hi, onefang writes: > For what it's worth I just discovered that xscreensaver now has > xscreensaver-systemd, and is running on my Chimaera desktop. "The > xscreensaver-systemd program is a helper program to integrate > xscreensaver with systemd(1)." > > I've been having problems with screen bla

Re: [DNG] Question about the text editor named medit.

2022-01-04 Thread Antony Stone
On Tuesday 04 January 2022 at 13:18:07, Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Dear All, > > Upgrading to chimeara removed medit, a text editor I used for writing > code and any other plain text document. I could not install it and it > seems it has been removed from the repository. Searching online for

Re: [DNG] Question about the text editor named medit.

2022-01-04 Thread Ralph Ronnquist via Dng
On Tue, 4 Jan 2022 13:18:07 +0100 Edward Bartolo via Dng wrote: > Dear All, > > Upgrading to chimeara removed medit, a text editor I used for writing > code and any other plain text document. I could not install it and it > seems it has been removed from the repository. Searching online for a >

Re: [DNG] Question about the text editor named medit.

2022-01-04 Thread aitor
Hi, On 4/1/22 13:47, Ralph Ronnquist via Dng wrote: .. gratuitous result: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1372529/is-it-possible-to-get-latest-version-of-medit-aka-mooedit-for-ubuntu-20-04-lts The tarball was available; the rest is for ubuntu of course The last packaging was in oldstable: h

[DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

2022-01-20 Thread o1bigtenor via Dng
Greetings When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available in websites all this information about my system is included. Is there a way to block the sending of this particular information? Please?? TIA ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.d

Re: [DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

2022-01-20 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 20 January 2022 at 13:32:39, o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available > in websites all this information about my system is included. a) all what information? b) which email client are you using? > Is there a way to

Re: [DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

2022-01-20 Thread terryc
On Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:32:39 -0600 o1bigtenor via Dng wrote: > Greetings > > When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available > in websites all this information about my system is included. > > Is there a way to block the sending of this particular information? > > Please?? >

Re: [DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

2022-01-20 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 20/01/2022 à 13:32, o1bigtenor via Dng a écrit : Greetings When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available in websites all this information about my system is included. Is there a way to block the sending of this particular information?     First thing: don't use gmail. g

Re: [DNG] Question re: security/info sent with emails and more

2022-01-21 Thread al3xu5 via Dng
Thu, 20 Jan 2022 06:32:39 -0600 - o1bigtenor via Dng : > Greetings > > When I look at the headers from my emails and sometimes available > in websites all this information about my system is included. > > Is there a way to block the sending of this particular information? Hi... My suggestions

[DNG] Question: Why does "mkdir -p" produce unexpected file permissions and group

2020-01-25 Thread Stefan Krusche
Good day everyone, I observed this behaviour of "mkdir" under /usr/local/: $ sudo mkdir -p share/doc/subversion-book-en $ ls -l -d share/doc/subversion-book-en drwxr-sr-x 2 root staff 4096 Jan 25 13:10 share/doc/subversion-book-en The same happens in a root shell. I rather expected to get this:

Re: [DNG] Question: Why does "mkdir -p" produce unexpected file permissions and group

2020-01-25 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 schrieb Stefan Krusche: > Why does group get the 's' bit and becomes 'staff'? Is this normal? > If yes, where is it documented? Okay, I think I found it. In: /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.html/ch-opersys.html#s9.1.2 the last paragraph says this: "The /usr/local

Re: [DNG] Question: Why does "mkdir -p" produce unexpected file permissions and group

2020-01-25 Thread Florian Zieboll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On Sat, 25 Jan 2020 13:27:10 +0100 Stefan Krusche wrote: > I observed this behaviour of "mkdir" under /usr/local/: > > $ sudo mkdir -p share/doc/subversion-book-en > $ ls -l -d share/doc/subversion-book-en > drwxr-sr-x 2 root staff 4096 Jan 25 13

Re: [DNG] Question: Why does "mkdir -p" produce unexpected file permissions and group

2020-01-25 Thread Stefan Krusche
Am Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 schrieb Florian Zieboll: > very probably the parent directory is assigned to the "staff" group > and has this bit set as well: It's called SGID-bit and recursively > sets the group ID according to the directory owner instead of the > current user - see man (1) chmod. Ha

Re: [DNG] Question: Why does "mkdir -p" produce unexpected file permissions and group

2020-01-25 Thread Stefan Krusche
Resending to list, cause I got this message privately… a...@bastelmap.de schrieb am 25.01.2020 13:50: > Am Samstag, 25. Januar 2020 schrieb Stefan Krusche: > > Good day everyone, > > > > I observed this behaviour of "mkdir" under /usr/local/: > > > > $ sudo mkdir -p share/doc/subversion-book-en >

Re: [DNG] Question: Why does "mkdir -p" produce unexpected file permissions and group

2020-01-25 Thread Simon Hobson
Stefan Krusche wrote: > What is the difference between "below /usr/local" > and "in /usr/local" for directory "/usr/local/something"?! (as referred > to in this section of the debian policy.) AIUI, "in" means those items that are directly within the directory, while "below" means those items wi