[DNG] When 128?

2018-06-20 Thread Steve Litt
There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing? 1971: 4bit: Intel 4004 1974: 8bit: Intel 8080 1978: 16bit: Intel 8086 1985: 32bit: Intel 20386 2003: 64bit: AMD Opteron / Pentium 4 EO revision When are we

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 03:16:28PM -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought up > another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing? > > > 1971: 4bit: Intel 4004 > 1974: 8bit: Intel 8080 > 1978: 16bit: Intel 8086 > 1985: 32bit

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-20 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400, Steve wrote in message <20180620151628.0e132...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought > up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing? > > > 1971: 4bit: Intel 4004 > 1974: 8bit: Inte

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-20 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 10:17:38PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400, Steve wrote in message > <20180620151628.0e132...@mydesk.domain.cxm>: > > > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought > > up another question in my mind: When will we hav

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-20 Thread terryc
On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400 Steve Litt wrote: > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought > up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing? Give off. Its taken 40 years for me to be finally able to buy a 64bit computer. I want to be able to

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-20 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting terryc (ter...@woa.com.au): > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400 > Steve Litt wrote: > > > There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought > > up another question in my mind: When will we have 128 bit computing? > > Give off. Its taken 40 years for me to be finally

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Jaromil
dear Adam, On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, Adam Borowski wrote: > x86 on the other hand has variable size of opcodes, 1 to 15 bytes. > This, by the way, is the biggest flaw of x86 instruction set: the > rules to split code into opcodes are extremely hairy, requiring all > the decoding work to be done twice

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Dear Adam, dear Jaromil, dear listeners, Jaromil - 21.06.18, 09:12: > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, Adam Borowski wrote: > > x86 on the other hand has variable size of opcodes, 1 to 15 bytes. > > This, by the way, is the biggest flaw of x86 instruction set: the > > rules to split code into opcodes are extr

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Alessandro Selli
Il giorno Wed, 20 Jun 2018 20:11:50 -0700 Rick Moen ha scritto: > Quoting terryc (ter...@woa.com.au): > >> On Wed, 20 Jun 2018 15:16:28 -0400 >> Steve Litt wrote: >> >>> There was a discussion of whether to retain 32 bit, and that brought >>> up another question in my mind: When will we have

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/06/2018 à 09:12, Jaromil a écrit : dear Adam, On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, Adam Borowski wrote: x86 on the other hand has variable size of opcodes, 1 to 15 bytes. This, by the way, is the biggest flaw of x86 instruction set: the rules to split code into opcodes are extremely hairy, requiring all

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:17:51AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: > Le 21/06/2018 à 09:12, Jaromil a écrit : > > dear Adam, > > > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, Adam Borowski wrote: > > > > > x86 on the other hand has variable size of opcodes, 1 to 15 bytes. > > > This, by the way, is the biggest flaw of x86

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/06/2018 à 09:37, Martin Steigerwald a écrit : From what I learned and read over the years, just about any other CPU architecture other than than x86 is both conceptually and technically more sound than x86. I started with C-64 (6510) and Amiga (68000 up to 68060, then PowerPC) computers.

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread ael
On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:37:26AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > It is time for true excellence again. It was on offer for several years, but too few understood: the transputer family. ael ___ Dng mailing list Dng@lists.dyne.org https://mailinglis

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/06/2018 à 11:31, KatolaZ a écrit : On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:17:51AM +0200, Didier Kryn wrote: Le 21/06/2018 à 09:12, Jaromil a écrit : dear Adam, On Wed, 20 Jun 2018, Adam Borowski wrote: x86 on the other hand has variable size of opcodes, 1 to 15 bytes. This, by the way, is the bigg

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 21/06/2018 à 11:34, ael a écrit : On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 09:37:26AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: It is time for true excellence again. It was on offer for several years, but too few understood: the transputer family. ael     A guy of my lab used them a lot for parallel computing, in

Re: [DNG] When 128?

2018-06-21 Thread dan pridgeon
From: Martin Steigerwald To: dng@lists.dyne.org Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2018 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [DNG] When 128? >From what I learned and read over the years, just about any other CPU architecture other than than x86 is both conceptually and technically more sound than