Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-17 Thread Didier Kryn
Le 15/06/2017 à 17:52, Steve Litt a écrit : On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 12:39:32 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 01:27:19PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: No chance of getting things like this reduced from "depends" to "recommends", I suppose? I asked the maintainer if he could do that,

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread Nate Bargmann
Such dependencies are hardly surprising when one considers that Debian has been a GNOME shop since GNOME's beginning. At the time GNOME was an official GNU project, as I recall, and Debian was very close to being a GNU project as well in 1998. GNOME, of course, coming into being due to the then G

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 12:39:32 +0100 KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 01:27:19PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > No chance of getting things like this reduced from "depends" to > > "recommends", I suppose? > > > > I asked the maintainer if he could do that, and he gently explained me > t

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 01:27:19PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: [cut] > > > Just to make an example, it is still very hard for me to understand > > why a packge like grace (which is a lesstif program to produce X-Y > > plots) should depend on gconf2. The motivation provided by the > > maintainer i

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 15 June 2017 12:23:26 KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:40:32PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: > > > How does this work out on a Debian system when you select a different DE, > > then? > > You still get gconf, gnome-keyring, and other goodies installed, even > if you are using x

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:40:32PM +0200, Antony Stone wrote: [cut] > > > > In most of the cases those dependencies do not come from upstream, and > > have been instead introduced by Debian packagers, who have made a lot > > of effort to entangle as tightly as possible hundreds of packges with >

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread Antony Stone
On Thursday 15 June 2017 11:18:29 KatolaZ wrote: > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:02:02PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > > > > gconf2 is not installed but gconf-service, gconf2-common and libgconf-2-4 > > are. > > > > Are they really needed? Trying to remove any of them causes > > emacs24/emacs25 to

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread KatolaZ
On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:02:02PM +0200, Svante Signell wrote: > On Tue, 2017-06-13 at 11:16 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > > Hi All, > > > > So please, if you are using ascii with any > > Desktop Environment, could you please hel testing those packages and > > report any problem, so that we can move th

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-15 Thread Svante Signell
On Tue, 2017-06-13 at 11:16 +0100, KatolaZ wrote: > Hi All, > > So please, if you are using ascii with any > Desktop Environment, could you please hel testing those packages and > report any problem, so that we can move them to the main ascii repo > asap? I've been trying out mate-session, wmaker

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 09:59:45PM +0200, Massimiliano Baldinelli wrote: [cut] > > I booted today with the updated dbus (1.10.18-1+devuan2.2) and all is > working until now. > > Desktop is MATE 1.16.2, no login manager as I still use startx. > > I also made a (very quick) test on a VM with ASC

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-14 Thread Massimiliano Baldinelli
On 06/14/2017 09:06 AM, KatolaZ wrote: Hi Max, kernel version could be irrelevant, but which desktop manager you are using should not be so. I booted today with the updated dbus (1.10.18-1+devuan2.2) and all is working until now. Desktop is MATE 1.16.2, no login manager as I still use star

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-14 Thread mobinmob
On 13/06/2017 02:39 μμ, KatolaZ wrote: It would be great if somebody (better if "many-body" :P) could confirm whether an upgrade from the current ascii version to those packages is flawless or not. Upgrade works without problems here (ASCII, kde, lightdm) :) __

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-14 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 11:22:20PM +0200, Massimiliano Baldinelli wrote: > On 2017-06-13 11:39, KatolaZ wrote: > > >It would be great if somebody (better if "many-body" :P) could confirm > >whether an upgrade from the current ascii version to those packages is > >flawless or not. > > Ciao KatolaZ

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-13 Thread Massimiliano Baldinelli
On 2017-06-13 11:39, KatolaZ wrote: It would be great if somebody (better if "many-body" :P) could confirm whether an upgrade from the current ascii version to those packages is flawless or not. Ciao KatolaZ :) Since I use testing I'm just installing it to give it a try. What system info sho

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-13 Thread KatolaZ
On Tue, Jun 13, 2017 at 01:10:37PM +0200, Irrwahn wrote: [cut] > > I can tell no difference in any behavior, all dbus related functionality > appears to work perfectly fine, no dependencies were broken during the > change. > > Oh, and gconf2 (which was also already installed, version 3.2.6-4

Re: [DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-13 Thread Irrwahn
On Tue, 13 Jun 2017 11:16:41 +0100, Katolaz wrote: > Hi All, > > we have just built updated dbus packages for ascii. They are still in > experimental: > > deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main > > and the current version number is 1.10.18-1+devuan2.2. This build > should fix

[DNG] new dbus packages for ASCII in experimental -- PLEASE HELP TESTING

2017-06-13 Thread KatolaZ
Hi All, we have just built updated dbus packages for ascii. They are still in experimental: deb http://packages.devuan.org/devuan/ experimental main and the current version number is 1.10.18-1+devuan2.2. This build should fix the following bugs: http://bugs.devuan.org/95 http://bugs.devua