On Wed, 11 Jul 2018 00:27:17 +0200
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 15:44]:
> > On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:36:46 +0200
> > Harald Arnesen wrote:
> >
> >> Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]:
> >>
> >> > The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather
> >> > than trying
Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 15:44]:
> On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:36:46 +0200
> Harald Arnesen wrote:
>
>> Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]:
>>
>> > The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
>> > trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact
>> > the exist
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> Yeah, I knew the link, and it correctly says that net-tools has not
> seen a new release since 2011 (which is 7 years, not 17 :P).
>
> And thanks a lot for the link. This is the way a discussion should go
> :)
Yr. very welcome! On the arithmetic error,
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 09:41:11AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
>
> > Again, links before opinions:
> >
> > https://sourceforge.net/p/net-tools/code/ci/master/tree/
> >
> > net-tools might be obsolete for many functions, but it's still
> > developed, and is
Quoting KatolaZ (kato...@freaknet.org):
> Again, links before opinions:
>
> https://sourceforge.net/p/net-tools/code/ci/master/tree/
>
> net-tools might be obsolete for many functions, but it's still
> developed, and is surely not "unmaintained" since 17 years ago.
Argue with Jon Corbet, then
Rowland Penny wrote:
> The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
> trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact
> the existing maintainer (and you could have problems actually
> finding the maintainer), get their permission to update the package
> o
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 15:36:46 +0200
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]:
>
> > The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
> > trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact
> > the existing maintainer (and you could have problems a
Rowland Penny [2018-07-10 14:37]:
> The problem is that it is probably easier to start anew rather than
> trying to update/maintain an existing project. You have to contact the
> existing maintainer (and you could have problems actually finding the
> maintainer), get their permission to update the
On Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:08:48 +0200
Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Rick Moen [2018-07-10 10:30]:
>
> > Was there something that lead you to believe it had become illegal
> > to use unmaintained code? Otherwise, I find the basis of your
> > question quite difficult to understand.
>
> Don't be ridiculou
Rick Moen [2018-07-10 10:30]:
> Was there something that lead you to believe it had become illegal to
> use unmaintained code? Otherwise, I find the basis of your question
> quite difficult to understand.
Don't be ridiculous. I just think it would be better to maintain the old
commands instead o
Il giorno Tue, 10 Jul 2018 09:32:07 +0300
Lars Noodén ha scritto:
> On 07/09/2018 11:23 PM, Harald Arnesen wrote:
>> Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]:
>>
>>> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
>>> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and
On Tue, Jul 10, 2018 at 01:30:41AM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting Harald Arnesen (skog...@gmail.com):
>
> > So if my main machine runs *BSD, I will have to use a totally different
> > set of commands on my Linux laptop?
>
> No, you can continue to use a set of utilities on your Linux laptop th
Quoting Harald Arnesen (skog...@gmail.com):
> So if my main machine runs *BSD, I will have to use a totally different
> set of commands on my Linux laptop?
No, you can continue to use a set of utilities on your Linux laptop that
have been unmaintained code for 17 years and cannot handle source-ba
On 10.07.18 09:32, Lars Noodén wrote:
> > Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands with Linux-only
> > commands that are no better?
>
> Looking at the comparison table in that link, not only are the new
> utilities and order of magnitude more complex they also fail to deliver
> many of th
Rick Moen [2018-07-10 00:31]:
> Quoting Harald Arnesen (skog...@gmail.com):
>
>> Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands with Linux-only
>> commands that are no better?
>
> At your convenience look up how many years the net-tools codebase has
> been orphaned. Can't remember, but it's
On 07/09/2018 11:23 PM, Harald Arnesen wrote:
> Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]:
>
>> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
>> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
>
> Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands
On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 12:01:06PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote:
> Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se):
>
> > Nice, didn't know about the ss command. You can also use
> > netstat -tulp
> > lsof -i :80
>
> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2
Il giorno Mon, 9 Jul 2018 22:23:04 +0200
Harald Arnesen ha scritto:
> Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]:
>
> > 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
> > https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
> >
>
> Why, oh why repla
Quoting Harald Arnesen (skog...@gmail.com):
> Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands with Linux-only
> commands that are no better?
At your convenience look up how many years the net-tools codebase has
been orphaned. Can't remember, but it's many.[1] There is also
functionality supp
Harald Arnesen wrote on 07/09/2018 03:23 PM:
> Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands with Linux-only
> commands that are no better?
Can we blame SCO or Microsoft somehow?
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Rick Moen [2018-07-09 21:01]:
> 'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
> https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
Why, oh why replace well-known, portable commands with Linux-only
commands that are no better?
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Quoting k...@aspodata.se (k...@aspodata.se):
> Nice, didn't know about the ss command. You can also use
> netstat -tulp
> lsof -i :80
'netstat' in the 21st Century is spelled 'ss'. ;->
https://dougvitale.wordpress.com/2011/12/21/deprecated-linux-networking-commands-and-their-replacements/
(My
Adam Borowski:
> On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:12:12PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> > I can't start lighttpd because something is already bound to port 80.
> >
> > How can I find out what's attached to this port?
>
> man ss
>
> ss -lp46
Nice, didn't know about the ss command. You can also use
net
On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:12:12PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I can't start lighttpd because something is already bound to port 80.
>
> How can I find out what's attached to this port?
>
$ netstat -lntpu
$ man netstat
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On 07/08/2018 06:12 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I can't start lighttpd because something is already bound to port 80.
How can I find out what's attached to this port?
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On Sun, Jul 08, 2018 at 09:12:12PM -0400, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I can't start lighttpd because something is already bound to port 80.
>
> How can I find out what's attached to this port?
man ss
ss -lp46
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I can't start lighttpd because something is already bound to port 80.
How can I find out what's attached to this port?
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