Hi!
As a honest feedback:
Currently I do not read much of the threads here.
Cause again and again I see language like systemd being like a cancer or
infecting people´s systems.
It is neither a cancer, nor does it infect systems.
What this kind of language mirrors in my eyes is fear of having
On Tue 31 March 2015 10:10:28 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> So here is my plea to stay to what you actually *really* perceive. Stop
> assuming intentions. Especially stop assuming bad intentions. I think that
> systemd developers essentially mean it good. They have no evil plans to
> take over the
I wouldn't say systemd developers are evil
merely selfish
On Tuesday, March 31, 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hi!
>
> As a honest feedback:
>
> Currently I do not read much of the threads here.
>
> Cause again and again I see language like systemd being like a cancer or
> infecting people´s
Selfish in what way exactly? Is Systemd closed source?
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 9:53 AM, shraptor shraptor wrote:
> I wouldn't say systemd developers are evil
> merely selfish
>
> On Tuesday, March 31, 2015, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>>
>> Hi!
>>
>> As a honest feedback:
>>
>> Currently I do not
On Tue 31 March 2015 09:59:48 Damien Hunter wrote:
> Selfish in what way exactly?
maybe in a way where they put their own priorities on top and ruthlessly
follow them, no matter if that breaks stuff for a lot or even majority of other
users. Selfish as in egozentric and not at all open to any cr
Hi Jörg,
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2015, 10:40:14 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
> On Tue 31 March 2015 10:10:28 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > So here is my plea to stay to what you actually *really* perceive.
> > Stop
> > assuming intentions. Especially stop assuming bad intentions. I think
> > that syst
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2015, 11:11:31 schrieb Joerg Reisenweber:
> On Tue 31 March 2015 09:59:48 Damien Hunter wrote:
> > Selfish in what way exactly?
>
> maybe in a way where they put their own priorities on top and
> ruthlessly follow them, no matter if that breaks stuff for a lot or
> even maj
On Tue 31 March 2015 11:16:02 Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> I do not think that any terms like cancer, infection or cabal are any
> helpful there.
NB not *I* invented "systemd cabal" term, it been Poettering himself, in his
blog I linked above.
here again for your convenience:
http://0pointer.ne
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 11:16:02AM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
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>
> What I perceive as the most pressing social issue around systemd and
> systemd upstream, but also partly systemd Debian packagers is the complete
> refusal to treat some bug reports and some kind of feedback in a way
On 03/31/2015 10:10 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> It is neither a cancer, nor does it infect systems.
"Systemd Gains IP Forwarding, IP Masquerading & Basic Firewall Controls"
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=systemd-networkd-IP-Forward
"Systemd Works On PPPoE Support"
http://w
On Tue 31 March 2015 11:57:00 Udo Rader wrote:
> And when it comes to wording and social (mis)behaviour, I think Lennart
> said it very well for himself in his interview last October:
>
> "The Open Source community is full of assholes"
Perfect excuse to act like one yourself ;-)
[not addressed t
Am Dienstag, 31. März 2015, 11:57:00 schrieb Udo Rader:
> On 03/31/2015 10:10 AM, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> > It is neither a cancer, nor does it infect systems.
>
> "Systemd Gains IP Forwarding, IP Masquerading & Basic Firewall Controls"
> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=syst
"Saying that systemd is the source of all evil and we are doomed to it, is
in no way helpful for any..."
It's the spawn of Satan, I tell you! Have you not seen the systemd web site?
http://churchofsatan.com/
It's been written on The Internet that the systemd developers have horns
growing out of
On 2015-03-31 10:10, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
Hi!
Neither systemd nor systemd upstream have any power over you.
This is still *free* software.
Stop giving your power away.
Ciao,
the systemd discussion is most importantly not a technical discussion
but a discussion on its centr
On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 01:59:28PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
>
> If you want to see this as a cancer or virus infection you are subjected
> to, it is your choice. I doubt that it is a choice that is effective at
> changing the situation, but it is your choice.
Seeing it as a cancer is mo
On Tue, 31 Mar 2015 10:10:28 +0200
Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Saying that systemd is the source of all evil and we are doomed to
> it, is in no way helpful for any "we want to be without systemd"
> efforts like Devuan. Quite the opposite: It harms the credibility of
> such projects, cause it gi
Please don't feed the trolls. Thank you.
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