> A lightweight browser would be welcome. Does anyone have a practical
> way to migrate bookmarks from Chrome or Chromium to such a lightweight
> browser?
qupzilla can import chromium bookmarks. i'm sure other actively
maintained browsers have the same capability.
- Gravis
On Sun, Mar 8, 2015
On Sun, Mar 08, 2015 at 11:59:25AM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
>
> I - personally - use chromium sometimes as i, as you've noticed,
> dislike Google yet some IE-ish sites work better on chromium than they
> do on firefox. Chromium seems fast but lacks a few plugins i use in
> Firefox. Unfortunate
-Original Message-
From: Nate Bargmann [mailto:n...@n0nb.us]
Sent: Saturday, March 7, 2015 6:36 PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is
Unfortunately, this sort of inconsistency toward their definition of
"stable" caused p
My recent usage demonstrated Firefox to be more efficient
than Chrome on a 1 GiB netbook. I would suggest the
ESR version of Firefox as a starter browser.
Qupzilla or Midori could also serve as initial included browser.
The idea is only to provide a means to download a desired browser.
___
> Hence my original suggestion: for a distro
> that's still trying to get on its feet, a lightweight browser would
> probably be best, like midori, dillo or something else.
right because giving people the option of using their prefered browser
is a bad idea!
> I don't think
> the effort of event
On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 6:11 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
>> "Go look at the code, it's open" is a common "argument" i hear from
>> pro-systemd advocates. Curious. About looking at the code: have you
>> personally audited chrome's code, top to bottom, OpenBSD-style? 'Cos if you
>> haven't - it is
* On 2015 07 Mar 16:29 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> > Iceweasel and Chromium are both updated to the upstream-supported
> > version periodically (when the current version is no longer
> > supported). The amount of churn between versions and the number of
> > versions means that it would be very
>Iceweasel and Chromium are both updated to the upstream-supported version
periodically (when the current version is no longer supported).
>The amount of churn between versions and the number of versions means that
it would be very difficult to backport patches.
Yes, certainly. My point was the
On Sat, Mar 07, 2015 at 02:19:43PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
>
> >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2015/msg00031.html
>
> >I think ^THIS is probably the biggest reason not to use Chromium.
>
> >Never mind whether it's affiliated with Google or whether that makes it
> untr
>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2015/msg00031.html
>I think ^THIS is probably the biggest reason not to use Chromium.
>Never mind whether it's affiliated with Google or whether that makes it
untrustworthy.
>If you can't keep it updated for the full lifetime of the release,
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 08:44:31PM +0100, Stefan Ott wrote:
> On 03/06/2015 08:06 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >
> > That said, the reason I suggested Chromium as an alternative to
> > Firefox is that essentially a better piece of software. It has
> > better features, better support for Web standards
> "Go look at the code, it's open" is a common "argument" i hear from
> pro-systemd advocates. Curious. About looking at the code: have you
> personally audited chrome's code, top to bottom, OpenBSD-style? 'Cos if you
> haven't - it is a big piece of software -, well your argument is moot
Nu
On Fri, Mar 6, 2015 at 7:06 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> If someone has issue with the code, it's open. Go look for yourself. I beg
> everyone's kind indulgence and excuse me for saying this, but the conspiracy
> theories about Google and the Chromium source code come from people who have
> never
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On 03/06/2015 08:06 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> That said, the reason I suggested Chromium as an alternative to
> Firefox is that essentially a better piece of software. It has
> better features, better support for Web standards, and it is more
> acti
dear Miroslav,
On Fri, 06 Mar 2015, miroslav.rov...@zg.ht.hr wrote:
> I hope to be able to continue my Grsecurity/Pax Deployment in Devuan for
> the Newbies (or of a similar title), like I did in Debian Forums (see my
> first message in this thread). And about the rest of non-poeterware (and
> r
I'm somewhat confused here. I'm not arguing against anyone expressing
opinions, but what does all this chatter about "big brother" and "I
don't trust Google" accomplish? We were talking about Chromium, not
Chrome. There is a HUGE difference.
If someone has issue with the code, it's open. G
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 10:25:53AM +0100, Jaromil wrote:
>
>
> On 6 March 2015 09:06:45 CET, Neo Futur wrote:
> >> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it,
> >> instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be
> >> attainable in the way I got it in De
On 6 March 2015 09:06:45 CET, Neo Futur wrote:
>> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it,
>> instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be
>> attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official
>> support would be so great!
>
>https
> If I understand what you are saying you mean that a link to site A which links
> to copyrighted material on site B is itself a violation of copyright.
no, what i mean is that he was the one who uploaded the clips to
youtube, got banned from youtube and then posted the links on a forum
to the cli
> the Grsecurity/Pax hardening of the kernel, will you think of it,
> instead of SELinux, or as an option besides SELinux? It sure will be
> attainable in the way I got it in Debian in that Tip, but official
> support would be so great!
https://git.devuan.org/groups/hardened
we are a few guys pla
> On March 5, 2015 at 11:26 PM Gravis wrote:
> the link you posted links to a clip from Al Jazeera that was taken
> down due to copyright infringement. you do realize that content from
> Al Jazeera is copyright and that posting it without permission is
> copyright infringement, right? if you do
> > you are not a victim here. your videos were "terminated" because they
> > violated copyright law which they are required to enforce. apparently
> > you are a repeat offender and thus correctly deemed untrustworthy.
> You don't know that to be truth what you are claiming. And you are calling me
This is textual representation from links -dump
https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/thread/20150305.194152.e5e48ea9.en.html .
||M...|| Gravis 2015-03-05 05:22
||M| Dr. Nikolaus Klepp 2015-03-05 08:04
||.M Dr. Ni
> I was derided and attacked earlier in Debian Fora
why am i not surprised? -_-
- Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 7:44 PM, wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:41:52PM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
>> **Looks around**
>>
>> Full moon tonight?
>
> Well, I don't respond in kind. I was derided and
as a matter of fact, it is!
http://www.moongiant.com/Full_Moon_New_Moon_Calendar.php
the good news is that friday the 13th wont coincide with a full moon
for another 34 years. turns out, the last one was this past June.
- Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Martijn Dekkers
wrote:
> **Looks
On Thu, Mar 05, 2015 at 09:41:52PM +0200, Martijn Dekkers wrote:
> **Looks around**
>
> Full moon tonight?
Well, I don't respond in kind. I was derided and attacked earlier in
Debian Fora, but my topics and my tips ended up being read and
followed. And they are in Gentoo Fora.
I'd just point to
> Really? The Surveillance Engine Terminated All My Videos
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=113059
you are not a victim here. your videos were "terminated" because they
violated copyright law which they are required to enforce. apparently
you are a repeat offender and thus correct
**Looks around**
Full moon tonight?
On 5 March 2015 at 19:51, wrote:
> I want to add my thoughts and feelings to this conversation.
>
> But since this is my first message to this list, here're a few links of
> my tips, user-to-user (I'm not an expert and I'm just a fraction of a
> programmer if
I want to add my thoughts and feelings to this conversation.
But since this is my first message to this list, here're a few links of
my tips, user-to-user (I'm not an expert and I'm just a fraction of a
programmer if at all), [user-to-user] tips:
Grsecurity/Pax installation on Debian GNU/Linux
h
* On 2015 05 Mar 07:22 -0600, Jaromil wrote:
> On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> > Mutt is on my todo-stack
>
> in case you fancy an out-of-the box setup of msmtp, fetchmail, mutt and
> notmuch search over maildirs plus abook integration, have a look at
> https://www.dyne.org/software/j
On Thu, 05 Mar 2015, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> Mutt is on my todo-stack
in case you fancy an out-of-the box setup of msmtp, fetchmail, mutt and
notmuch search over maildirs plus abook integration, have a look at
https://www.dyne.org/software/jaro-mail :^)
I certainly plan to package it for Devuan.
On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:14 PM, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> If I might offer an alternative suggestion? I'd rather see Devuan default
> to Chromium with NAPI support than use Firefox, period. As for
> Thunderbird, I see no reason to use Mozilla's version. Unless things have
> changed since I last h
On Thursday, March 5, 2015, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > Besides issues related to Chromium's poor support for privacy features,
> > it also has no real security support.
>
> No comment on the privacy features, but I beg to differ on the security.
> The fact that the Linux build of Chromium runs each t
Nik, please remove yourself from the mailing list.
--Gravis
On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis:
>> > Here is just one example of what I am referring to.
>> > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
>
Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb Gravis:
> > Here is just one example of what I am referring to.
> > http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
>
> yeah, if you actually read the article you will learn that google
> (like everyone else) complies with the law. if you l
Am Donnerstag, 5. März 2015 schrieb william moss:
> On 03/04/2015 07:06 PM, Ed Ender wrote:
[...]
>
> Opera for the browser.
> Thunderbird or Claws for email, though the Opera client is good.
Does it have maildir? All those one-big-file-for-everything mailbox style
clients are pestilenze for bac
> They do not support anything but the current version
> unbuildable on a stable Debian release because they freely import dependencies
> They don't even support RHEL 6
you have this /backwards/, your _software_distributor_ isn't
supporting Chromium. there are literally tens of thousands of
distr
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 21:09 -0500, Jude Nelson wrote:
> > Besides issues related to Chromium's poor support for privacy features,
> > it also has no real security support.
>
> No comment on the privacy features, but I beg to differ on the security.
> The fact that the Linux build of Chromium runs
/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
>
> I don't understand where you got child pornography from.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Gravis" [rin...@adaptivetime.com]
> Date: 03/04/2015 09:16 PM
> To: "Ed Ender"
> CC: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
>
The only reason that I suggested Chromium is that it is *already* in the
Debian repository. For those concerned about security and maintenance,
that means that it is no worse than the rest of the software in Debian.
The reasons I have less respect for Firefox than I used to are really
simple.
"Ed Ender"
CC: "dng@lists.dyne.org"
Subject: Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is
> Personally, I would rather stay away from the world of Google. Although I
> have no real say in the matter.
> That IMO would be a security breach, considering their ti
On 03/04/15 21:29, william moss wrote:
>
> Opera for the browser.
>
*** Last time I checked, Opera was proprietary software.
Did you see how I edited the email?
==
hk
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* On 2015 04 Mar 18:30 -0600, william moss wrote:
> Thunderbird or Claws for email, though the Opera client is good.
To paraphrase, "You'll have to pry my Mutt from my cold dead fingers!"
;-)
- Nate
--
"The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all
possible worlds. The pessimist fea
On Wed, 2015-03-04 at 14:25 -0500, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 07:45:22PM +0100, Anto wrote:
> > Hello Everybody,
> >
> > I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will use
> > the re-branded Mozilla products.
> >
> Debian *could* have used the firefox binary di
ir ties to government
> agencies.
>
> Just my 2 cents!
>
> Ed
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "T.J. Duchene" [t.j.duch...@gmail.com]
> Date: 03/04/2015 06:14 PM
> To: dng@lists.dyne.org
> Subject: Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is
a lot of devuan packages are just rebuilt debian packages. we dont
need more work than we already have, so why bother with
re-re-branding? if you can't stomach chromium then i suggest you
check out qupzilla because it has to speed of chromium, the interface
of firefox and no google integration. c
> Besides issues related to Chromium's poor support for privacy features,
> it also has no real security support.
No comment on the privacy features, but I beg to differ on the security.
The fact that the Linux build of Chromium runs each tab and plugin in its
own seccomp'ed process and runs them
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 05:14:26PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> >>>Is Devuan going to use the exact same guideline? If not,is there any
> >>>plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is in the future,
> >>>especially Firefox and Thunderbird?
>
> If I might offer an alternative suggestion? I'd ra
;
> Just my 2 cents!
>
> Ed
>
> -Original Message- From: "T.J. Duchene"
> [t.j.duch...@gmail.com] Date: 03/04/2015 06:14 PM To:
> dng@lists.dyne.org Subject: Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use
> Mozilla products as is
>
>
> On 03/04/2015 01:25 PM,
]
Date: 03/04/2015 06:14 PM
To: dng@lists.dyne.org
Subject: Re: [Dng] Plan for Devuan to use Mozilla products as is
On 03/04/2015 01:25 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
>> I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will use
>> >the re-branded Mozilla products.
>> >
&g
On 03/04/2015 01:25 PM, Hendrik Boom wrote:
I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will use
>the re-branded Mozilla products.
>
>As far as I understood, the main reason for the re-branding is the
>Mozilla license that does not comply with DSFG
>(https://www.debian.org/social_
On 04/03/15 20:25, Hendrik Boom wrote:
As I understood it, the main problem was that the mozilla browser is
open-source except for the mozilla icon/logo, which is copyright, and
not under a free license. And the firefox name is trademarked, and they
won't let you use the name without the icon.
On Wed, Mar 04, 2015 at 07:45:22PM +0100, Anto wrote:
> Hello Everybody,
>
> I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will use
> the re-branded Mozilla products.
>
> As far as I understood, the main reason for the re-branding is the
> Mozilla license that does not comply with DS
Hello Everybody,
I guess it is very likely that the first release of Devuan will use the
re-branded Mozilla products.
As far as I understood, the main reason for the re-branding is the
Mozilla license that does not comply with DSFG
(https://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines). Or the
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