Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Clarke, Can you: * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i)? * use apt-cache rdepends to show us which packages depend on them? Thanks, Jude Not the OP here, and not

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Irrwahn
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 17:15:25 -0400, Fsmithred wrote: On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Irrwahn wrote: FWIW, I've got three Devuan installations running: jessie VM, ascii VM, ascii on real hardware. In all of them I was able to get everything (including shutdown et. al) working without systemd, except

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/12/2015 10:45 AM, Irrwahn wrote: When there's a /lib/systemd/systemd-logind, then not all the systemd packages were purged properly. :-) Anyway, IIRC dimkr is already working on a fix for the logind/consolekit clash. Yeah, I know. That file was gone after I removed the systemd

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread fsmithred
On 06/12/2015 09:33 AM, Irrwahn wrote: fsmithred wrote on 12.06.2015 14:40: Not the OP here, and not exactly what you're asking, but here's what I did yesterday: Installed devuan-alpha2-amd64 netinstall iso in virtualbox. At tasksel, I un-checked Print Server and Devuan Desktop Environment,

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Irrwahn
fsmithred wrote on 12.06.2015 14:40: Not the OP here, and not exactly what you're asking, but here's what I did yesterday: Installed devuan-alpha2-amd64 netinstall iso in virtualbox. At tasksel, I un-checked Print Server and Devuan Desktop Environment, and I checked XFCE. All seemed to be

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 04:11:12AM +0200, Franco Lanza wrote: Anyway, differently from debian, even in the alpha stage in devuan you can, right now and avoiding some packages like gnome things, have a completely systemd install. But it's NOT ready, it's NOT release, it's Might you mean

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-12 Thread Steve Litt
On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 08:40:44 -0400 fsmithred fsmith...@gmail.com wrote: After that, shutdown and reboot buttons stopped working in xfce and lightdm. Only logout from the desktop worked, bringing me to the login screen. This has been the bane of my existence since long before systemd.

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:35:34 -0400 Clarke Sideroad clarke.sider...@gmail.com wrote: It seems my fresh netboot install this morning has swallowed and installed systemd. It was an expert 64bit install of jessie with XFCE and subsequently firmware-linux-non-free had been installed for the

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 06/11/2015 11:04 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 08:35:34 -0400 Clarke Sideroad clarke.sider...@gmail.com wrote: It seems my fresh netboot install this morning has swallowed and installed systemd. It was an expert 64bit install of jessie with XFCE and subsequently

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Clarke Sideroad
On 06/11/2015 02:17 PM, Jude Nelson wrote: Hi Clarke, Can you: * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i)? * use apt-cache rdepends to show us which packages depend on them? Hi Jude, I'll do a reinstall this evening and

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Go Linux
On Thu, 6/11/15, Clarke Sideroad clarke.sider...@gmail.com wrote: Subject: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone To: dng@lists.dyne.org Date: Thursday, June 11, 2015, 7:35 AM It seems my fresh netboot install this morning has swallowed

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Steve Litt
On Thu, 11 Jun 2015 14:17:30 -0400 Jude Nelson jud...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Clarke, Can you: * give us a listing of which systemd packages are installed (something like aptitude search systemd | egrep ^i)? * use apt-cache rdepends to show us which packages depend on them? Thanks, Jude

Re: [Dng] Systemd sneaks in was file download zone

2015-06-11 Thread Chris Dos
On 06/11/2015 09:04 AM, Steve Litt wrote: Hi Clarke, First, from what I understand, the microsecond you get Devuan Alpha 2 installed, go into /etc/apt/sources.list and comment out the two from debian, leaving only the ones from devuan. I think that will help some. Third, what leads you