On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 10:34:25PM +0100, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2014 schrieb John Morris:
> >
> > And yes, putting the thing in hardware does enhance security in ways
> > software alone simply can't.
> >
>
> … and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
Am Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2014 schrieb John Morris:
> On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 17:23 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> > What can it do in the right? Nothing that can't be done without the TPM
> > chip. One of the first things that you learn in computer engineering is
> > that anything problem can be
On Tue, 23 Dec 2014, Joe Awni wrote:
Instead of rehashing nightmare scenarios, id like to invite you into my
day-dream:
Devuan makes headlines news as the first OS to use a TPM to prevent the
installation of any DRM software or any software that does not respect the
user's freedoms.
That would
And now you know why i did not want to be the one to explain TPM, because i
often make little mistakes, such as typo. Or, for example, quoting only
half of a sentence as Jaromil points out.
Or assuming that, like myself, the readers of this list have spent a
life-time studying operating systems' d
On 12/23/2014 3:35 PM, Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
And yes, putting the thing in hardware does enhance security in ways
software alone simply can't.
… and if you believe that, I have a bridge to sell you.
Nik
Be nice. =) John may not have had training in hardware that you have
had. You're b
Am Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2014 schrieb John Morris:
> On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 17:23 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> > What can it do in the right? Nothing that can't be done without the TPM
> > chip. One of the first things that you learn in computer engineering is
> > that anything problem can be
On Mon, 2014-12-22 at 17:23 -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
> What can it do in the right? Nothing that can't be done without the TPM
> chip. One of the first things that you learn in computer engineering is
> that anything problem can be solved on software or hardware. The only
> difference is a
dear Joe,
thanks for your input
Disclaimer: I'm biased towards software implementations in general, even
when it comes to computer graphics or desktop accelleration FWIW.
Because I see hardware as inherently limiting freedom unless carefully
designed for opennes - and as of today there is much t
I didn't want to go down this thread, but i feel compelled to respond to
the non-sense and hysteria surrounding TPM. As i said before, they are
stuffing your open mind with rubbage.
TPM is not part of Ethernet.
Perhaps it's been mistaken for IPMI / BMC ( which btw does have known holes
["so if you
Am Dienstag, 23. Dezember 2014 schrieb Joe Awni:
> [...]
> Although i stated in my previous message that i did not want to explain.
> However, i see that w/o my explanation the insanity of a fun house of
> mirrors plus an echo chamber would prevail. (you know how it is: `DRM bad ∴
> TPM bad`) There
Not wanting to be a TPM promoter or mailing-list-linguist, but i see even
more problems with the writings on TPM here:
I see rhetorical questions used fold uninformed opinations into an
invagination of ignorance on this mailing list.
( ie: "What can it do in the right? Nothing...")
Also, I see an
On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 05:23:30PM -0600, T.J. Duchene wrote:
>
> On 12/22/2014 3:44 PM, Joe Awni wrote:
> >
> >
> >IMO, the amplitude of potential TPM-nightmare scenarios should give a clue
> >about the strength of the technology.
> >IE: If it can do that in the "wrong-hands," what can it do in t
On 12/22/2014 3:44 PM, Joe Awni wrote:
IMO, the amplitude of potential TPM-nightmare scenarios should give a
clue about the strength of the technology.
IE: If it can do that in the "wrong-hands," what can it do in the right?
Hi Joe!
What can it do in the right? Nothing that can't be done
OK, at first i was a bit concerned that i would be off topic in the
Packaging system thread, but i have read so much misinformed
fear-mongering, that i decide to clear this up with it's own thread.
First, let me be the first to say i am not the person to explain TPM
technology or crypto primitives
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