On 28/05/2015 11:43, Didier Kryn wrote:
porting to Musl was not finished yet - still problems
with dynamic linking he says. I prefer Musl to uClibc for several
reasons
I'm using musl too. You can use the Aboriginal toolchains, even if
they're uClibc-based, to compile musl, and then link stuff
Le 27/05/2015 17:51, Irrwahn a écrit :
No intention to lessen your main point, but that last observation
does not come as a surprise. Development systems inherently have
an installation overhead compared to simple runtime environments,
it's always been that way. However, it amazes me what heaps
On 27/05/2015 17:46, Anto wrote:
And I have been using OpenWRT for years
This is exactly akin to using a distribution, even if you
recompile it from source: it hides the real costs such as
software dependencies, because it precisely does all the hard
work for you.
OpenWRT is a great project,
On 27/05/2015 17:51, Irrwahn wrote:
No intention to lessen your main point, but that last observation
does not come as a surprise. Development systems inherently have
an installation overhead compared to simple runtime environments,
it's always been that way.
Oh, definitely. My router doesn't
Laurent Bercot wrote on 27.05.2015 17:15:
> On 27/05/2015 16:49, Didier Kryn wrote:
>> I am slowly trying to assemble a minimal Linux development
>> environment and the number of tools you need to just compile a C
>> program is unbelievable. Clearly, the majority of developpers don't
>> care about
On 27/05/15 17:15, Laurent Bercot wrote:
On 27/05/2015 16:49, Didier Kryn wrote:
I am slowly trying to assemble a minimal Linux development
environment and the number of tools you need to just compile a C
program is unbelievable. Clearly, the majority of developpers don't
care about simplicity
On 27/05/2015 16:49, Didier Kryn wrote:
I am slowly trying to assemble a minimal Linux development
environment and the number of tools you need to just compile a C
program is unbelievable. Clearly, the majority of developpers don't
care about simplicity.
Amen to that.
I built my home router
Le 27/05/2015 15:32, Laurent Bercot a écrit :
On a development machine, it is
easy to always get the newest, shiniest tool, and quickly make a project
work using that tool. But dependencies are a cost, a cost that is mostly
hidden to developers, and also mostly hidden to users with a lot of hard
On 24/05/2015 00:17, Steve Litt wrote:
http://troubleshooters.com/linux/politics_of_dependencies.htm
Well written, Steve. I liked the article. :)
I would argue that arrogance isn't so much the problem as carelessness.
It's actually a good idea to stand your ground against external pressure
w
Steve Litt wrote on 24.05.2015 00:17:
> http://troubleshooters.com/linux/politics_of_dependencies.htm
Thanks for the read. Now, if only we could burn the last paragraph
of the article in the retinas of certain "developers".
Cheers,
Urban
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Excellent article. Thanks for sharing it.
Could I have permission to quote the part about arrogance? I want to
print it and put it in the office, citing your authorship, of course.
El 2015-05-23 18:17, Steve Litt escribió:
Hi all,
Updating a hoard of Troubleshooters.Com links, I came across
ubject: [Dng] The more things change, the more they remain the same
Hi all,
Updating a hoard of Troubleshooters.Com links, I came across an article
I wrote in 2008, back when systemd was a twinkle in Harry Poettering's
father's eye.
And yet, the human and technology issues discussed in t
Hi all,
Updating a hoard of Troubleshooters.Com links, I came across an article
I wrote in 2008, back when systemd was a twinkle in Harry Poettering's
father's eye.
And yet, the human and technology issues discussed in this article are
eerily like today's systemd situation.
It's called "The Poli
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