Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-10 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-09-10, at 17:59, Olafur Gudmundsson o...@ogud.com wrote: [cc'ed to a more approriate IETF wg] ... and I'll gratuitously mention draft-jabley-dnsop-validator-bootstrap here too, since it addresses exactly this topic. Joe ___ DNSOP mailing

Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-10 Thread Brian E Carpenter
On 11/09/2013 09:59, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: ... My colleagues and I worked on OpenWrt routers to get Unbound to work there, what you need to do is to start DNS up in non-validating mode wait for NTP to fix time, then check if the link allows DNSSEC answers through, at which point you can

Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-10 Thread Evan Hunt
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 05:59:52PM -0400, Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: My colleagues and I worked on OpenWrt routers to get Unbound to work there, what you need to do is to start DNS up in non-validating mode wait for NTP to fix time, then check if the link allows DNSSEC answers through, at which

Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-10 Thread Masataka Ohta
Olafur Gudmundsson wrote: So how do you get the time after you power on the device? The usual answer is use ntp. Except you can't do a DNS resolve when your time is incorrect. You have a chicken and egg problem to resolve/hack around :-(. It is one reason why DNSSEC does not worth

Re: [DNSOP] Practical issues deploying DNSSEC into the home.

2013-09-10 Thread Olafur Gudmundsson
[cc'ed to a more approriate IETF wg] On Sep 10, 2013, at 11:55 AM, Jim Gettys j...@freedesktop.org wrote: Ted T'so referred to a conversation we had last week. Let me give the background. Dave Taht has been doing an advanced version of OpenWrt for our bufferbloat work (called CeroWrt