Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy and Team Cymru's report on 300, 000 SOHO routers with compromised DNS settings

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Dan York wrote: Now, in this case the attackers compromised the local network devices and took over control of the local recursive resolvers.  In this case of the attacker controlling the recursive resolver, I don't know that any of the various solutions thrown around today

Re: [DNSOP] DNS privacy and Team Cymru's report on 300, 000 SOHO routers with compromised DNS settings

2014-03-07 Thread Tony Finch
Paul Wouters wrote: > On Thu, 6 Mar 2014, Dan York wrote: > > > I don't even see DNSSEC helping much here, either, given that the > > attacker could just strip out the DNSSEC info (unless, perhaps, the > > home computers were running full (vs stub) recursive resolvers that > > also did DNSSEC-vali

[DNSOP] Updating Parent Zones proposal - feedback from registries and registrars

2014-03-07 Thread Francisco Arias
A option to obtain feedback from gTLD registries and registrars would be to use the gtld-t...@icann.org mailing list: https://mm.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/gtld-tech Regards, -- Francisco. ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/m

[DNSOP] CPE devices doing DNSSEC

2014-03-07 Thread Mark Andrews
What do we expect CPE devices to implement to update parent zones. 100 different things to cover all the update methods registrar's come up with. Or do we say do exactly one method that works in all situations? We already have a problem today were they ca

Re: [DNSOP] CPE devices doing DNSSEC

2014-03-07 Thread Joe Abley
On 7 Mar 2014, at 10:05, Mark Andrews wrote: > What do we expect CPE devices to implement to update parent > zones. 100 different things to cover all the update methods > registrar's come up with. Or do we say do exactly one > method that works in all situations? > >

Re: [DNSOP] pushing updates to the parent

2014-03-07 Thread Tony Finch
Joe Abley wrote: > > https://xkcd.com/927/ So from the standards development point of view, I think what this is saying is that success is more likely to come from building on what people are already doing and nudging more of them to do it more similarly. The problem with the parent update proce

[DNSOP] Passive DNS COF

2014-03-07 Thread Lawrence Conroy
Hi Chaps, stupid quick question, listening to the stream: How does this work with CDNs (I think you may need to capture the IP address; bailiwick could act as a proxy for that, but ...) all the best, Lawrence ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org htt

Re: [DNSOP] pushing updates to the parent

2014-03-07 Thread Joe Abley
On 7 Mar 2014, at 10:49, Tony Finch wrote: > Joe Abley wrote: > >> https://xkcd.com/927/ > > So from the standards development point of view, I think what this is > saying is that success is more likely to come from building on what people > are already doing and nudging more of them to do it

[DNSOP] I-D Action: draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-roadblock-avoidance-00.txt

2014-03-07 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Domain Name System Operations Working Group of the IETF. Title : DNSSEC Roadblock Avoidance Authors : Wes Hardaker Olafur

Re: [DNSOP] CPE devices doing DNSSEC

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Hoffman
On Mar 7, 2014, at 10:05 AM, Mark Andrews wrote: > I know Registrars don't like to be told what to do +1 --Paul Hoffman ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

Re: [DNSOP] Passive DNS COF

2014-03-07 Thread Paul Vixie
Lawrence Conroy wrote: > Hi Chaps, > stupid quick question, listening to the stream: > How does this work with CDNs (I think you may need to capture the IP address; > bailiwick could act as a proxy for that, but ...) this is well described, as follows: https://archive.farsightsecurity.com/Pas

Re: [DNSOP] pushing updates to the parent

2014-03-07 Thread Mark Andrews
In message <8c184518-2a56-42b6-bd63-3e50f8126...@hopcount.ca>, Joe Abley writes : > > On 7 Mar 2014, at 10:49, Tony Finch wrote: > > > Joe Abley wrote: > > > >> https://xkcd.com/927/ > > > > So from the standards development point of view, I think what this is > > saying is that success is more