Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Paul Wouters
On Fri, 7 Aug 2020, Evan Hunt wrote: As I said earlier, I think "primary" and "seconary" are well-enough understood concepts now that we can describe roles in a particular transaction with phrases like "acting as a primary" or "acting as a secondary" and get the point across without much difficu

Re: [DNSOP] Alias mode processing in auths for draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-01

2020-08-07 Thread Brian Dickson
On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 7:42 AM Ben Schwartz wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 4:14 AM Brian Dickson < > brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> "More than one is permitted" is the case only because of the current spec. >> I don't see any explanation for why this is (or needs to be) the cas

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Tim Wicinski
Michael You are correct - this is not going anywhere fast. The chairs will be putting the revised 8499bis up for adoption soon (on return from holiday) and you are free to express yourself then. tim On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 1:27 PM Michael De Roover wrote: > On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 10:33 -0400,

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Michael De Roover
On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 10:33 -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > > On Aug 7, 2020, at 05:54, Michael De Roover > > wrote: > > On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 09:59 -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > > > It’s not controversial. > > I don't deny that it is regarded as controversial, > > As you can see, I said (privately) that

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Ted Lemon
> On Aug 7, 2020, at 05:54, Michael De Roover wrote: > On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 09:59 -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: >> It’s not controversial. > I don't deny that it is regarded as controversial, As you can see, I said (privately) that the problem is not that the use of this terminology is controversia

Re: [DNSOP] [Ext] Starting a -bis document for RFC 8109: Initializing a DNS Resolver with Priming Queries

2020-08-07 Thread Andrew McConachie
On 6 Aug 2020, at 16:41, Paul Hoffman wrote: On Aug 6, 2020, at 4:08 AM, Andrew McConachie wrote: What does it mean for a resolver to be primed, or for a resolver to not be primed? For example, is a resolver considered primed only if it has all root server names and IP addresses? 50%? At

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Michael De Roover
On Fri, 2020-08-07 at 13:09 +0200, Vittorio Bertola wrote: > Apologizing in advance for the procedural remark, can I ask what's > the point of discussing text in an already released document? If > anyone is unhappy with that, they should just propose another draft > that updates/obsoletes that docu

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Vittorio Bertola
> Il 07/08/2020 12:02 Michael De Roover ha scritto: > > > > Personally I don't > > > see anything controversial in it. > > > > I suspect you haven’t suffered structural racisms because if the > > colour of your skin and because of what happened to your grand > > parents ? > On a more personal

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Michael De Roover
On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 10:01 -0400, Paul Wouters wrote: > On Aug 5, 2020, at 09:47, Michael De Roover > wrote: > > Honestly I wouldn't change it at all. I mean.. why is the use of > > master/slave controversial anyway? > > This sounds very tone deaf. Even if you personally can’t grasp it, > just

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Michael De Roover
On Wed, 2020-08-05 at 09:59 -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > It’s not controversial. That is, the problem isn’t that there is > controversy, although clearly there is, since you’re debating it. The > problem is also not that it’s offensive, although it is. I don't deny that it is regarded as controversia

Re: [DNSOP] Alias mode processing in auths for draft-ietf-dnsop-svcb-https-01

2020-08-07 Thread Brian Dickson
On Thu, Aug 6, 2020 at 9:42 PM Mark Andrews wrote: > > Sorry you just broke DNSSEC if there are more than one AliasForm records. > More than one is permitted with the same name. > Good point. "More than one is permitted" is the case only because of the current spec. I don't see any explanation

Re: [DNSOP] Question regarding RFC 8499

2020-08-07 Thread Paul Vixie
On Friday, 7 August 2020 04:18:18 UTC Evan Hunt wrote: > On Wed, Aug 05, 2020 at 01:04:22AM +, Paul Vixie wrote: > > ... > > > > what's your proposal? > > As I said earlier, I think "primary" and "seconary" are well-enough > understood concepts now that we can describe roles in a particular >