On Fri, 10 Nov 2023, David Conrad wrote:
DNSBLs have been around a lot longer than QNAME minimization.
Not sure that’s relevant — I presume you’re not suggesting DNSBLs are a
predominant use of the DNS.
In the overall Internet, no, but within the e-mail world it's probably the
majority of t
On Nov 10, 2023, at 21:02, John Levine wrote:
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>> A bit misleading subject :P
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> It seems to have done the trick.
You need to trick people with exaggerations to read your emails? The industry
term for that is “clickbait”. I urge everyone not to engage in that in the IETF.
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> DNSBLs ha
Subject: Re: [DNSOP] Working Group Last Call for
draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping
On 9/19/23 21:48, Tim Wicinski wrote:
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> This starts a Working Group Last Call for
draft-ietf-dnsop-dnssec-bootstrapping
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> Current versions of the draft is available here
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, Paul Wouters wrote:
DNSBLs have been around a lot longer than QNAME minimization. They
work(ed) fine without minimization and I don't think it is reasonable
to expect every mail system in the world to change their configuration
to work around our performance bug.
It is tota
On Sat, 11 Nov 2023, John R Levine wrote:
work(ed) fine without minimization and I don't think it is reasonable
to expect every mail system in the world to change their configuration
to work around our performance bug.
It is totally reasonable for protocols and software and configurations
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> Note that my original point was that if the current RBL lives at
> antispam.rbl-vendor.org, simply moving it to _antispam.rbl-vendor.org
> might fix it if the underscore handling mentioned in the minimized query
> RFC is actually implemented with some code in the current implementations,
> in
Joe Abley wrote on 2023-11-10 23:40:
On 10 Nov 2023, at 21:26, Brian Dickson wrote:
Perhaps the DNSBL operators could individually or collectively operate
resolvers which do that exact thing?
I'm not sure why the answer isn't "MTAs should run local resolvers configured in
ways that best
Paul
Thank you for this detailed review! When I spoke with Peter on WGLC, I had
documented
organizational issues. I wasn't sure if my organization suggestions
were any better,
so I opted to mention this during WGLC and have people much smarter than me
assist.
I will think out the document organiz
Paul,
On Nov 10, 2023, at 11:06 PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:
>> On Nov 10, 2023, at 11:55 AM, John Levine wrote:
>>> DNSBLs have been around a lot longer than QNAME minimization.
>> Not sure that’s relevant — I presume you’re not suggesting DNSBLs are a
>> predominant use of the DNS.
> DNSBLs are on
