[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Petr Špaček
I've reviewed version 18 and it seems okay. I have only nit: Section C.1. BIND 9 is using somewhat confusing references to recommendations. Sometimes it says "recommendation 3" but it means something else than R3 in the preceding text. Some unification would be good, but that's really a nit.

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread Petr Špaček
Hello everyone, when re-reading this document I've realized one limitation which is not explicitly mentioned: --- 3.2. Responders ... A name server MAY also include more than one ZONEVERSION option in the response if it is authoritative for more than one zone of the corresponding QNAME. A n

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread Joe Abley
On 4 Jul 2024, at 08:38, Petr Špaček wrote: > when re-reading this document I've realized one limitation which is not > explicitly mentioned: > > --- > 3.2. Responders > > ... A name server MAY also include more than one ZONEVERSION option in the > response if it is authoritative for more tha

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread Petr Špaček
On 04. 07. 24 10:00, Joe Abley wrote: On 4 Jul 2024, at 08:38, Petr Špaček wrote: when re-reading this document I've realized one limitation which is not explicitly mentioned: --- 3.2. Responders ... A name server MAY also include more than one ZONEVERSION option in the response if it is a

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread Joe Abley
Hey, On 4 Jul 2024, at 09:15, Petr Špaček wrote: > To be clear: > Let's not hang too tight on this particular example. It could be something > crazy like > > qname.zone1.test. CNAME target2.example. > target2.example. CNAME final.example.net. > final.example.net. A 192.0.2.1 > > (i.e. zone na

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread Petr Špaček
On 04. 07. 24 10:28, Joe Abley wrote: Hey, On 4 Jul 2024, at 09:15, Petr Špaček wrote: To be clear: Let's not hang too tight on this particular example. It could be something crazy like qname.zone1.test. CNAME target2.example. target2.example. CNAME final.example.net. final.example.net. A

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 7/4/24 10:00, Joe Abley wrote: --- 3.2. Responders ... A name server MAY also include more than one ZONEVERSION option in the response if it is authoritative for more than one zone of the corresponding QNAME. A name server MUST NOT include more than one ZONEVERSION option for a given TYP

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread Peter Thomassen
On 7/4/24 10:55, Petr Špaček wrote: Only comment I have is that LABELCOUNT could have been TYPE-dependent so a new TYPE could define different mechanism to identify zone, but hey, wasting 1 byte is not a big deal in the age of multi-gigabyte videos playing in the background constantly. Tha

[DNSOP] Re: [dnsdir] Dnsdir last call review of draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-09

2024-07-04 Thread Jim Reid
> On 4 Jul 2024, at 07:45, Nicolai Leymann via Datatracker via dnsdir > wrote: > > Overall I think the document is ready for publication. Thanks Nic. Though the LC comments today suggest we’re not yet done with this doc, :-( ___ DNSOP mailing list

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
David Thanks for the comments. On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 9:26 PM David Farmer wrote: > A couple of issues I noticed; > > 1. The text added to R2 in section 3.1 refers to Appendix C, but it > includes an Editor's Note that it will be removed, leaving this as a > dangling reference. The Editor's Not

[DNSOP] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
Petr, On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 3:22 AM Petr Špaček wrote: > I've reviewed version 18 and it seems okay. > > I have only nit: > Section C.1. BIND 9 is using somewhat confusing references to > recommendations. Sometimes it says "recommendation 3" but it means > something else than R3 in the precedin

[DNSOP] Re: Last Call: (The DNS Zone Version (ZONEVERSION) Option) to Informational RFC

2024-07-04 Thread John Levine
It appears that Peter Thomassen said: >NEW >[...] A name server MAY also >include additional ZONEVERSION options with reduced LABELCOUNT if, in >addition to the zone corresponding to the QNAME, it is also >authoritative for any of its parents. [...] We all seem to agree that th

[DNSOP] Re: draft-ietf-dnsop-zoneversion-09

2024-07-04 Thread Mark Andrews
What is the reasoning behind the following? Why not just FORMERR the request when the option length is not zero? How hard do we think writing a client is that they will get sending a zero length option wrong? What is wrong with sending back an immediate error signal? There is a thing of being

[DNSOP] Re: IETF 120 Call for Agenda Items DNSOP WG

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
All A reminder Call for Agenda Items for the IETF 120 in Vancouver, Canada. Draft Submission Deadline is Monday 8 July 2024. Please email the chairs with your requests. *Or* drop us a pull request https://github.com/ietf-wg-dnsop/wg-materials/tree/main/dnsop-ietf120 look for dnsop-ietf120-agenda

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Paul Vixie
On Thursday, July 4, 2024 7:05:22 AM PDT Tim Wicinski wrote: > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 9:26 PM David Farmer wrote: > > 2. Also, maybe R5 should have text similar to R3 with "...the minimum > > of...the interface MTU, the network MTU...and 1400 bytes..." Instead of > > "It should use a limit of 1400

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
Paul On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 6:41 PM Paul Vixie wrote: > On Thursday, July 4, 2024 7:05:22 AM PDT Tim Wicinski wrote: > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 9:26 PM David Farmer wrote: > > > > 2. Also, maybe R5 should have text similar to R3 with "...the minimum > > > > of...the interface MTU, the network

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Geoff Huston
> On 5 Jul 2024, at 10:37 AM, Tim Wicinski wrote: > > Paul > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 6:41 PM Paul Vixie > wrote: > On Thursday, July 4, 2024 7:05:22 AM PDT Tim Wicinski wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2024 at 9:26 PM David Farmer wrote: > > > 2. Also, maybe R5 should have text similar to R3 with

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Tim Wicinski
Geoff, On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 8:58 PM Geoff Huston wrote: > > I think you appear to be getting "requestor" and "responder" confused in > your proposed text. Did you mean to say the following? > > Arrgh - Guilty and thank you for that. UDP responders should compose response response packets wit

[DNSOP] Re: [v6ops] Re: Re: Fwd: New Version Notification - draft-ietf-dnsop-avoid-fragmentation-18.txt

2024-07-04 Thread Paul Vixie
On Thursday, July 4, 2024 6:03:44 PM PDT Tim Wicinski wrote: > Geoff, > > On Thu, Jul 4, 2024 at 8:58 PM Geoff Huston wrote: > > I think you appear to be getting "requestor" and "responder" confused in > > your proposed text. Did you mean to say the following? > > Arrgh - Guilty and thank you fo