[DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-02-17 Thread
Thanks Benno. Thanks all reviewers for your time reviewing ATR draft. I'm sorry it is not adopted in WG but I still think the draft and the peer reviews help us to understand the problems better. Davey > -邮件原件- > 发件人: DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Benno Overeinder > 发送时间: 2019年2

[DNSOP] 答复: 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-25 Thread
Hi Brian, Thanks for your questions. Reply inline >(1) Has your testing revealed *where* the IPv6 fragmentation is occurring? >IIRC, IPv6 requires the originating host to do so. And originating UDP packet >size will be the smaller of the authority servers' configs and the EDNS >bufsize on the

[DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-atr-large-resp

2019-01-22 Thread
Thanks for all commenter's, I appreciate your frankness and vote based on your technical sense. I understand your push back especially considering the DNS camel stuff. I try to reply some of comments here. Some people argues on the problem statement of this draft. > Peter: Meanwhile, we have no

[DNSOP] 答复: DNSSEC threshold signatures idea

2018-09-07 Thread
I also ask the same question and look for solutions. I do find a statement from a paper (The Honey Badger of BFT Protocols@ CCS 2016) that " if an trusted party is unavailable, then a distributed key generation protocol could be used instead (c.f., Boldyreva [11])." [11] A. Boldyreva. Threshold

[DNSOP] 答复: DNSSEC threshold signatures idea

2018-09-06 Thread
Hi Mukund, Thank you for proposing here for comments and discussion. I would like to share more background on this if people are interested. Actually I was inspired by several sources. One is the Multisignature (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Multisignature ) concept from Bitcoin which help to reduc

[DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis

2018-07-24 Thread
+1 DNS privacy is an important issue. I support this adoption. And I’m willing to review it. Davey 发件人: DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Tim Wicinski 发送时间: 2018年7月25日 0:33 收件人: dnsop 主题: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-bortzmeyer-rfc7816bis We discussed this and there app

[DNSOP] 答复: a fragmented and uncooperative Internet

2017-09-21 Thread
OK. I finally understand the context of the word " Darwinism " in many IETF discussion and slides. Haha~ Davey > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Jim Reid [mailto:j...@rfc1035.com] > 发送时间: 2017年9月21日 15:22 > 收件人: "Davey Song(宋林健)" > 抄送: Paul Vixie; dnsop WG > 主题: a

[DNSOP] 答复: 答复: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt

2017-09-21 Thread
月21日 12:50 > 收件人: "Davey Song(宋林健)" > 抄送: 'Davey Song'; 'dnsop'; 'william manning' > 主题: Re: [DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt > > > > Davey Song(宋林健) wrote: > > Thank you. > > > > The

[DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt

2017-09-20 Thread
Thank you. The large DNS response in IPv6 is a real problem. ATR is one option to adopted in authoritative server alone. If someone or party have more influence on both resolver and authoritative side (cloud and app provider who can choose their own DNS resolution path), Mukund’s proposal

[DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt

2017-09-13 Thread
Sorry, You are right. > -邮件原件- > 发件人: Davey Song(宋林健) [mailto:ljs...@biigroup.cn] > 发送时间: 2017年9月13日 17:56 > 收件人: 'Lanlan Pan'; 'Davey Song' > 抄送: 'dnsop' > 主题: 答复: [DNSOP] Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt > > >

[DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: I-D Action: draft-song-atr-large-resp-00.txt

2017-09-13 Thread
> ATR make Authoritative Servers send normal big response packet before they > try to send TC response for large RRsets ? No. big response packet first, then TC response. Davey ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listi

[DNSOP] 答复: DNSOP Call for Adoption - draft-tale-dnsop-serve-stale

2017-09-08 Thread
I just notice it asks for "Standards Track" document. If it aims to introduce a special use of resolver to achieve some features for their users' benefit, I think informational document may be more appropriate ? I guess, like what RFC7706 does. Davey > -邮件原件- > 发件人: DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-b

[DNSOP] 答复: DNSOP Call for Adoption - draft-tale-dnsop-serve-stale

2017-09-05 Thread
Just quickly go through the draft. One question: Is it worthwhile to let sub-resolver to know that the answer is stale. It is true that “stale bread is better than no bread” on the recursive server’s point of view. But it may be not true for sub-resolver or measurement probes . The user

[DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http

2016-08-03 Thread
Hi Tim, Thanks for the chair's work. If there is any editing suggestion from HTTPbis WG, please let the us know. Davey -邮件原件- 发件人: DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Tim Wicinski 发送时间: 2016年8月3日 16:39 收件人: dnsop 主题: Re: [DNSOP] Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http Hi

Re: [DNSOP] JavaScript implementation of DNS over HTTP wire format draft

2016-07-18 Thread Davey()
ub.com/shane-kerr/DNSoverHTTPinGO/tree/ietf96hackathon. > > It will be merged into the main DNS over HTTP in Go repository soon. > > See you at the dnsop session soon! :) > > -- > Shane > ___ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf

[DNSOP] 答复: Call for Adoption: draft-song-dns-wireformat-http

2016-07-12 Thread
+1, there is enough room for us to improve. When I first drafted some idea, I was told that the IETF work is driven by the community. It's good. As one of the co-authors, I'm fairly open for suggestions. But for experimental draft, I'm not sure whether we should stick to the scope of original exp

[DNSOP] 答复: Fw: New Version Notification for draft-shane-dns-manifesto-00.txt

2016-07-10 Thread
When I first looked into DNS, I was recommended with a complex figure of DNS protocol family describing the dependency and activeness of many RFC documents. I'm wondering if it is possible to attach versions to DNS protocol similar like IPv4 and IPv6, http/1.1 and HTTP/2 which can give clear path o

[DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-03.txt

2016-05-03 Thread
I think the major benefit from this proposal is to make the upper layer(http layer) unaware the DNS data inside. So we do not need to consider the checksum-like mechanism , special authentication for DNS stub, and do keep truncation logic. I accept your idea that a new head filed Proxy-DNS-Tran

[DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-song-dns-wireformat-http-03.txt

2016-05-03 Thread
It’s interesting idea. We have not discuss that before. I’m not sure the impact of bad HTTP proxies to this protocol. Anyway it is not free to register a new head filed. I will discuss with co-author about delivering the TCP/UDP massage via other meta format. Thanks for your interest and commen

[DNSOP] 答复: New Agenda Uploaded

2016-04-03 Thread
Note that the **Session 2** is in Friday (10:00-12:00) not Wednesday(10:00-12:00). It is wrong in the attached file dnsop-ietf95-agenda.txt. -邮件原件- 发件人: DNSOP [mailto:dnsop-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Tim Wicinski 发送时间: 2016年4月3日 5:28 收件人: dnsop 主题: [DNSOP] New Agenda Uploaded All, After som

Re: [DNSOP] DNS message fragments

2015-08-20 Thread Davey()
the network successfully. > > > > > Please note that it may take a couple of minutes from the time of > submission until the htmlized version and diff are available at > tools.ietf.org. > > The IETF Secretariat > > > ___ > DNSOP mailing list > DNSOP@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop --- Davey Song(宋林健) BII Lab ljs...@biigroup.cn ___ DNSOP mailing list DNSOP@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/dnsop

[DNSOP] 答复: Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-wkumari-dnsop-multiple-responses-00.txt

2015-01-12 Thread
Hi Warren It's good idea that the authority DNS be smart enough to predict or configured to package all the information for a URL as a whole object (like a webpage). It will reduce the latency for user. As to the draft itself, there are two questions: First, for a same transaction, the cost fro